Recently got laid off from convoy. Got two offers Walmart - newer team, pilot program Team - TMS TC - 190k C3.ai - internal facing team Team - Engineering X TC - 250k Currently in Seattle. Both of them require moving to CA. Compensation is important but I am on VISA so job security is MORE important. People say products teams are better than internal to show on resume. Current TC - 0 YOE - 3 #c3.ai #walmart
Walmart for Job security. C3 is very risky. Look at their 1 year stock drop.
C3 good for learning and building good SWE platforms. It’s 4 day in office however.
Walmart’s the safer bet, but C3 is going to look & pay better. Also, pilot program(?) @ Walmart is probably higher risk than elsewhere in the org
Walmart willing to file your GC immediately? Then, that.
I worked in an enterprise AI startup (C3.AI competitor). It's a very tough market, especially if your promise is AutoML, which basically doesn't work except for some trivial cases. C3.ai will probably fail and your RSUs will be worthless. Look at the stock performance as well. I think their business model is fundamentally flawed. I'd join Walmart, it's much more stable and probably has better WLB.
How did the Baker Hughes GE partnership with C3 go? The products that the former developed ended up in C3. C3 is supposedly managed by ex-McKinsey execs, who are clueless about the industry or AI.
Walmart. It is an established company. C3 founder is a billionaire. If it goes down he is not going to be affected. It might be his play thing. Its focus has shifted a few times. That shows they have not decided their niche. TC 190 might not help much in CA. Rent is too high, state tax is back breaking. From this point of view C3 looks better.
You sure it's only 190? Walmart has weird rsu grants where they promise you refresher every year. The recruiters had a difficult time explaining this to me and I joined without even fully understanding how it works. A director clarified in for me a few months in and I was very pleased. It's distributed in a manner to give you incentive to stay longer. My TC on year 1 was about 215, but my 3rd year is 260 because the refresher accumulates. C3 might be public too and give RSUs but Walmart is most likely going to outperform them for a while. C3 stock has done awful and your TC will reduce if it continues that trend
I agree it was confusing. I did not get a new hire grant. They said it’s only for level 4 and above. Also the offer letter mentions refreshers but it’s like 25k and that also over 3 years. So around 8k a year. And recruiter said new grant every 3 years. Was it any different for you?
I'm given 1 grant every year. When I joined a grant vested every year for 4 years (approx value 40k over 4 years). It worked out to approx $10k/year. The grant I got after the first year made it $20k/year. The 3rd grant they changed and made it vest every quarter for 3 years. That made it about 33k/year. The grant next year should be similar and should be giving me about 45k but this is peak I think as grants begin to expire at this point. The additional 20% bonus i get in March would make TC next year about 275 or so. Can't complain, no leetcode was required for this role. Just an evaluation of skills. Also I joined in 2020 when I was expecting pandemic related recession which was put on delay until this year when the fed printed cash to compensate for lock downs. At this point Walmart is outperforming all the tech stocks, as I was expecting. I left Adobe to join Walmart.
Walmart doesn't like internal startup culture and usually the new R&D pilots are shot down. So remember that.
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You said job security so I voted Walmart (people still shop here during a recession). If you’re confident in your swe abilities though then go c3