Robloxnotbman

Question to people in the field. How easy is it to break into AI?

I'm a 23 year old junior engineer doing standard backend infra. Ive gotten interested in AI safety and I'm wondering what the easiest way for a junior backend engineer like me to change to a role where they are working on deep learning models. Interested in eventually landing a research engineer job like this: https://boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/5611918 https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs/310850697 rather than a role as a research scientist so hopefully I don't have to go back to school

Research Engineer, AI Safety and Alignment
Research Engineer, AI Safety and Alignment
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Research Engineer L4/L5 - LLMs for Search and Recommendations
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Infosys Cricket_fn Feb 17

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Zoom Shabi Eric Feb 17

Researcher? Get a PhD. ML application engineer, a few boot camp you are good lol.

Roblox notbman OP Feb 17

Yah I'm interested in roles like this: https://jobs.netflix.com/jobs/310850697 https://boards.greenhouse.io/deepmind/jobs/5611918 So research engineer rather than scientist. I've taken a few ml related classes in college and done some self studying

Block kenrbrbrb Feb 17

Anything with “research” is generally phd level candidates.

Google RGHQ28 Feb 17

False - why has advice on blind gotten so bad. It’s worse than Reddit.

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sattubhai Feb 17

@block is right. That’s true for 99% of cases. Ofc there are exceptions

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gDOT50 Feb 17

I'd say it's not very easy but you can do it! In my opinion, there are two good paths: 1. You can find a backend engineering role in an AI-related company, work there for some time, learn as much as possible about deep learning, and then eventually you will be able to get a research engineer role (most likely, at a different company). 2. Start building personal projects, play with different ML models/services, and just try to apply for research engineering positions.

Roblox notbman OP Feb 17

Appreciate it! I'll look into building some personal projects and shoot my shot at a transfer to a ml research team at my current role

Spotify edemanf Feb 17

I’ve studied both AI/ML and software engineering. While they’re work great together there’s not a lot from engineering that you can take to ML. Most of the ML is maths-stats. I personally couldn’t get any jobs in the ML field(this was 5 years ago) because all research positions need PhD or years of experience. I didn’t get any interviews. I then shifters my career goal towards engineering. I later discovered that I can probably stay close to ML which still being an engineer with ML engineer roles. I gave it a try and personally found ML engineer little boring because the engineering aspect of it is very easy but a lot of trial and error. You’re working for research scientists who are not always great programmers and my job was mostly to productionize their code.

eBay tW9hA Feb 17

Also studied both and have worked in ML my whole career, but disagree. You need to know your ML and fundamental stats and have research experience (not necessarily PhD, but papers) to pass the interview, but... once you're in, you immediately realize your MLEs are either nonexistent or overloaded. Depending on your specific situation, MLE work becomes a big chunk of the job if you're at all capable of it. Fairly common for researchers to use platform products to deploy models, or even to own inference services with on-call and all.