Two Sigma vs Google

Like the title says. Received offers from both with comparable TC. Would be joining as L4 at Google, L3 at Two Sigma (which looks to be the equivalent). Would be interested in hearing pros/cons for both. YOE: 4 Google: Cloud Two Sigma: Back Office

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Rubrik YxpW16 Feb 19, 2020

TC?

Microsoft pam212 Feb 19, 2020

What’s the offee details?

Fetch Robotics genio Feb 19, 2020

Is this a joke? Of course pick Google, once you have that name on your resume, you'll be able to wipe your own ticket to anywhere else, including Two Sigma

Rubrik YxpW16 Feb 19, 2020

Isn’t two sigma of equal or greater prestige than google? I don’t see why this is an easy choice at all

Goldman Sachs conq OP Feb 19, 2020

Like rubrik said, I'm definitely not convinced G is more prestigious. 2S is definitely at least more selective (though I may have just had fortunate timing).

Google __human__ Feb 19, 2020

The whole point of going into finance is to make more. In every other way goog is better. You can get poached in that direction for a raise later.

Goldman Sachs conq OP Feb 19, 2020

Can you explain what you mean by every other way? My understanding is that wlb is comparable, both have interesting projects and highly, highly qualified engineers. Ya, Google has more perks, but that's not the biggest deal.

Two Sigma bigjoke Feb 20, 2020

talking with my friends in goog, wlb is not comparable. Sure, there are teams that work Google hours, but >45 hour work weeks aren't uncommon, depending on your team.

Citadel loDz30 Feb 19, 2020

Used to work at GS and had the same options but chose the HF route instead. A SWE in finance is always someone’s slave, esp back office.

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tclow Apr 3, 2020

HF as in hedge fund? What is your current work like?

Two Sigma noproblems Feb 19, 2020

Two sigma, if you want to see more direct impact of your work to the company.

Ironclad ⌐(ಠ۾ಠ)¬ Feb 19, 2020

Some people won't even need to think because of 'prestige'

Microsoft pam212 Feb 19, 2020

Why don’t you share tc offer info

Amazon sdml7 Feb 19, 2020

It’s simple. G if you want to be an alpha, a money generator, the compensation controller or maybe someday even take Pichai’s job. SWE at T1 HFs like 2S, Citadel - you’re still just highly paid help. Always second tier to the traders. Never the alpha. The front office gets paid more and paid first. Pocket change comes to tech. At lower levels (up to L6) they’ll compete with big tech. At more senior levels - aka L8 or VP in big tech, they’d have to pay you more than the traders to stay competitive. But wait - SWEs aren’t needed without the front office at HFs. Thanks but no thanks. And no - you’re never taking the finance guy’s top job.

Fetch Robotics genio Feb 19, 2020

Exactly, at Google, Amazon, Microsoft and so on, engineers are the top guys

Microsoft leetcoder# Feb 19, 2020

Nah, VPs and C suit people are top guys in tech companies

Google jujubi428 Feb 19, 2020

In 2sigma, SWE is just slave of quant researcher.

Microsoft leetcoder# Feb 19, 2020

Aren't SWEs also slaves of stake holders at tech companies?

Lyft taopaipai Feb 19, 2020

Nah, at Google devs make the decisions rather than PMs like at Microsoft