I have two SWE new grad offers and I’m struggling to decide which to take. Background: Bachelor’s from T30 public university 2 no-name internships, TA experience and freelance work Google (L3): Location: Seattle, WA Base: 127k (negotiated from 106k) RSU: 90k, 33/33/22/12 vesting Signing: 0 Bonus: 15% Relocation: 10k lump sum (pre-tax) or itemized relocation package TC Y1 and Y2: 185k Notes: I'm an international student and the start date isn't until late August so I'm a little uncomfortable waiting that long to start. My school recommends I file for OPT later, but that doesn't sound ideal to me. The start date is non-negotiable since I only qualified for the early career immersion cohort. Bloomberg (SWE): Location: NYC, NY Base: 153k RSU: 0 Signing: 15k Bonus: 22k Relocation: 10k lump sum TC Y1: 200k, Y2: 185k Notes: I already signed this offer and would have to renege. The start date is in June, which is more ideal than Google. Any advice on what to do? Thanks! #software #google #bloomberg #newgrad
Ask google for a quicker start date. Google is 100x better company vs Bloomberg. Way better future career opportunities
They weren't willing to push the start date closer to what I wanted. They actually told me to tell my school to start my OPT later. If I bring this up with my recruiter again, do you think they'd be able to place me on another start date?
If google isn’t willing to cooperate explain the situation to your school. Your school wants you to go to google - it makes them look good because they can show that alumni work at google. You need to figure the exact specifics of OPT, what is absolutely critical on your end and find a solution that works for you. Your school has a vested interest in placing you at google
Idk about Bloomberg, but Google is known to have great stock refreshers. That should even it out in the long run if you can't negotiate them to match.
Bloomberg, stay for 1-2 years, go to Google
Any particular reason why Bloomberg > Google?
3 months of free training, build your network, choice of many teams, exit to finance or faang
NYC>>>>Seattle
This is true. But OP is new grad and should worry about company and career first and foremost. Can always transfer to NYC with Google later on. Also OP can save more in Seattle. Important for new grad. NYC not going anywhere
The fact that OP is a new grad means he should live in NYC and enjoy his youth. It’s impossible to live there with a wife and kids. How much does he really need to save at this age anyways? People on Blind are so obsessed with money they’d rather have no fun if it means a few extra $$
Obviously Bloomberg. BAANG.
Is your signing over 2 years? 153k + 22k does not equal 185k
Added in relocation since it's also money (correct me if I'm wrong)
127k is the standard for new grads next year. They really low balled you if their initial offer was 106
Yeah I sent over my Bloomberg offer and that's how I managed to negotiate up to standard. They're really lowballing people this year :/
They only ever hand out offers with the standard base for new grads. The lowballing happens on the equity and signing bonus. What’s more likely is that you were initially given an offer for a different location which had a lower standard base.
Bbg and nyc. Social life and chill work with more money. Doesn’t get better
BB is not bad, but are you sure about more money? He’ll need to return sign on + relocation if he leaves before 2 yoe(even 401k for 3 years) and it’s NYC taxes vs no state tax Seattle. G also has refreshers
185 in Seattle is at least 185 * 1.1 = 203.5 in NYC, and this is before factoring in refreshers (50k+ awarded every year vesting over 4 years) + Google benefits. Seems like they’d earn more at Google.
I voted Google but personally would hate living in Seattle, especially compared to nyc lol so to each their own. Outside of location, brand and perks are better at G. I wouldn’t worry about the small tc difference in year 1 due to G refreshers and the lower cost of living in Seattle compared to nyc
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This is a no brainer, negotiate Google as much as u can but it looks significantly better on your resume