Amazon vs Atlassian vs Nextdoor
New grad offers w/ first year TCs. If you vote, please let me know your reasoning!! Amazon - $179k + Highest 1st+2nd year TC <----------- I think some of you guys are missing this + Potential for the most interesting work considering the variety of different teams. I'm especially interested in stuff like Alexa + Comfortable with reneging if I get better offers + Might be the biggest resume boost of the 3? - I don't know my team because I declined my return offer for my summer team - Don't know exact location - Kind of depressing spending almost 2 months interviewing only to go back to Amazon Atlassian - $183k + Seemed to have great work culture + Not in SF (this should probably be a neutral point, but from the short total amount of time I've been in SF, I'm not a fan) - Not super interested in Atlassian products Nextdoor - $161k + Got the best feeling from Nextdoor out of all the companies I interviewed with + Seemed to have great work culture + I like Python and Go + Potential upside? + Might be the best place for growth/responsibility considering its size? - Lowest TC - I might not stay long enough for the future IPO - I don't know how reliable the cash value of options is here? A lot of people might put culture over TC, but TC is definitely something I want to focus on because of some family circumstances. But at the same time, I could really see myself at Nextdoor... I'm having a really hard time deciding between these offers. Anyone have any insight or advice?
I’m not sure about the Nextdoor business model even Facebook groups can do that. Do they have any interesting projects lined up for future release ?
Haha why would you go to Amazon. Atlassian is paying you more and it has way better culture.
Atlassian is paying me 4k more for the first year, but Amazon is paying about 10k more if you add up 1st year and 2nd year TC. Also, Amazon's way too large a company to generalize. My team over the summer internship was great
Internship != job
I'm from Atlassian and I should say it's actually an amazing culture here. Not all products are the best performance meaning you have enough to work on, improve if you'd like to. We're a 17 year old company highly relevant in today's tech ecosystem. Sure we have some issues that we're trying to solve with the product, but I still say that kind of comp outside of SF is more than just the cash difference. (think about it) Happy to answer any specifics.
Do u guys have free food?
@btcys Hey thanks for responding. - How flexible is Atlassian if a dev wants to focus on a certain area or avoid certain areas of software dev? - Do people usually hit the 10% annual bonus? - How's comp and role growth?
Did your second offer after you declined the first give you more money? What's the Amazon tc breakdown?
I am surprised that Atlassian is beating Amazon’s compensating. Usually they don’t come even close.
What location for atlassian? I'm surprised too
Nextdoor has a bad product and will not do well. Amazon has a mediocre product that everybody depends on and is a terrible place to work. Atlassian had a product that has become surprisingly decent lately and everybody depends on, has a decent reputation as an employer, *and* offered you the most money.
Amazon is paying 10k more if we adding 1st and 2nd year TC
Atlassian is kinda dying Aussie company. They're no longer that flashy anymore. Amazon is growing stronger. essentially you're also building stronger resume for working at a company at a bigger scale
Yup, totally dying. I predict by 3019 the company would be dead
Dying in the sense of prestige
Go to Amazon or Atlasssian if you want to be bored and have little impact in a bloated slow-moving org. (I worked at Amazon) If you come to Nextdoor, you’ll work with modern tech, help scale a global consumer product, and have more responsibilities as a new grad. The downside is you get to experience all the growing pains of a rapidly scaling company. The business model is solid and we have the revenue to justify our valuation. Don’t work somewhere miserable for an extra $20k. If Nextdoor is successful, that $20k won’t seem like much.
@kkam How would you say WLB and comp growth is at Nextdoor? Also, do you foresee an IPO within 2 years or do you think it'll happen sometime later than that?
WLB is good and comp growth depends on how well you’re doing / promos. IPO in 2 years is a good guess.
Worked at amazon as an intern and then as FTE and now at Atlassian. Atlassian has great culture and good wlb. Amazon is a great place to learn stuff but has a toxic culture. Even for those extra 10k, I won’t go back to the toxic culture that amazon had. Both are good companies in its own right. So totally depends what you value more. Cheers 🍻
@labradors Hey there. What sort of interesting work is there for new grads? Is Atlassian flexible enough to allow for devs to avoid certain areas (eg: frontend work) that theyre not big fans of? Also if you dont mind saying, what sort of work are you currently doing there?
Yes, most of the teams have a mix of frontend and backend developers. If you are interested in backend, let your manager know about your preference at the start. I have not worked on frontend in my time here. My work is mostly targeted towards enterprise customers and integrations. Can’t disclose much on open forum. But the problems are interesting and you can see the impact of your work on the customers after the release and people actively using it. Also, changing teams is easy here vs amazon. In my experience, it was a headache to change teams at amazon. People are super nice and tbh it took time for me to accept that people can be nice at work as amazon was super toxic. When i wanted to change teams at Atlassian, even my skip level manager helped me to find the right team for me. Hands down, till date, this is the best company I have worked.
Go to Atlassian and fix all the things I hate about JIRA
Don’t get why people swear by that bloated piece of shit
Good fucking luck.