CompensationJul 11, 2018
Upsight, Inc.tEJr02

Adobe Senior CS (L5) Offer - Negotiation

Mighty folks at Blind, I was made an offer today by Adobe for the role of Senior Computer Scientist (L5) in the Adobe Marketing Cloud and Analytics org. Offer being made : Annual Base: - 206k USD Stock: - Assuming Current stock price: ~250 USD - Total stock Value : 160K USD (650 total RSUs) - Annual Stock Value : 40K USD Bonus: - Annual 5% = ~10k - Sign-on Bonus: 25k - First Year End Bonus: 25k Total first year compensation: 307k Year on Year compensation (base + stock + 10k yoy bonus) : 260k (assuming salary/stock grant remains same after first year) How does this offer look for L5 (Senior Computer Scientist) ? How far can I negotiate and on which portions of the offer?

Upsight, Inc. tEJr02 OP Jul 11, 2018

Also, do folks have an idea of what the annual refresher looks like at Adobe? Is there a range (performance based)? The HR said it's pretty ambiguous and the value can be "anything".

Adobe Leetmyway Jul 11, 2018

3-5% refresher

Facebook GTif54 Jul 11, 2018

3-5% refresher for all levels ? Everybody in the team gets it?

Adobe Leetmyway Jul 11, 2018

That's discretionary. But that's the average I've heard

Autodesk IXBa07 Jul 11, 2018

Yoe? Is this tubemogul? If so you may want to read reviews about it. The offer looks par minus the bonus.

Upsight, Inc. tEJr02 OP Jul 11, 2018

No, this is based on San Jose (Omniture Analytics). Yoe = 12 years.

Autodesk IXBa07 Jul 11, 2018

If you fancy yourself with faang, linkedin, or unicorns you can make upto 400k

Yahoo Genius Jul 11, 2018

For 12 yoe, that sounds low!

Adobe Leetmyway Jul 11, 2018

Well that's Adobe for you

Upsight, Inc. tEJr02 OP Jul 13, 2018

Update: Adobe Raised the Year over Year Compensation Base : $220K Annual Bonus (5%) : $11000 RSU : 775 RSU Total = $200,000 over 4 years. Annual Stock value = $50,000 per year Bonus : $20000 each year for 4 years . This will be paid out at year 1,2,3,4 anniversary. Sign-on Bonus: 20k First year total comp : 320k Year over Year comp: 302k for each of 4 years ( assuming salary/stock grant remains same after first year). Lemme know how this looks to you.

Yahoo Genius Jul 13, 2018

320k for 12 yoe, for software engineer position that would be low. Not sure for computer scientist.

HPE xzyF41 Aug 1, 2019

Is year over year bonus standard? I'm negotiating an offer and they are saying 7% annual bonus. No mention of year over year bonus.

Autodesk IXBa07 Jul 13, 2018

Did they tell you the level? 54 or 55?

Upsight, Inc. tEJr02 OP Jul 13, 2018

I dunno about 54/55 ..they said the decision was between L4 / L5 and they gave me Level: L5 (Senior Computer Scientist II ) based on my interview performance.

Autodesk IXBa07 Jul 17, 2018

Did you end up accepting?

Upsight, Inc. tEJr02 OP Jul 17, 2018

Update: They raised base to 220k, annual stock grant to 50k, and added in a year over year bonus of 20k. So with the 5% annual AIP bonus the year over year comp comes to 305k. Also a first year sign on bonus of 20k. I have accepted the offer.

Autodesk IXBa07 Jul 17, 2018

thanks - congrats! Isnt it like this: 220 + .5% + 50 + 20 = 301k? & 321k first year?

Adobe dKFI31 Jul 26, 2020

With current stock price this offer is looking fantastic now :)