Tech IndustryJul 15, 2022
Applebrnt123

Airbnb G10/M1 offer

I received a verbal offer from Airbnb (after a few rounds of negotiations). Base: 245k Bonus: 25% RSU: 1M (over 4 years) Sign on: 20k 1st year TC: 580k I’ve tried to negotiate for 1.1M RSU and more sign on but they don’t bulge. Not sure if I want to risk and keep pushing as I think highly of Airbnb. I have a few competing offers but they are less than my TC at Apple. I am an EM1 (ICT4 equivalent) at Apple. Don’t have a promo path and prefer to have more flexible wfh policy. TC: 500k YoE: 10 years (2 as an EM) Location: Seattle #airbnb #offer

Amazon 300Klol Jul 15, 2022

what's the Apple TC looks like as an EM/ICT4

Apple brnt123 OP Jul 15, 2022

My TC is in the post. But it also depends on the org and your tenure at Apple. Apple refreshers are pretty nice.

Amazon tradewell Jul 21, 2022

Do you really want to make a move for 80K 15% salary difference means 50K post tax. I’m not discouraging you but think about it.

Meta felice415 Jul 15, 2022

Seems like TC-wise bump is really small to consider the move.

Apple brnt123 OP Jul 15, 2022

Airbnb’s refreshers are very good. 300k for meets expectations I believe. Also, I am bullish on them long term so getting in now might be a gamble worth trying.

Meta felice415 Jul 15, 2022

Do you mind sharing your thoughts on being bullish on them? I am also interviewing now and have one interview scheduled with them, but so far I felt neutral.

Roblox c46Hbr Jul 15, 2022

Seems their offer is lower than before. I saw it was common to have 1.2m+ RSU for staff/em. BTW, didn’t expect apple ict4 can have 500+ TC, especially when the stock was down like 20%.

Apple brnt123 OP Jul 15, 2022

Refreshers

Roblox c46Hbr Jul 15, 2022

What’s a typical refresher like? 150k?

Roku RokWho Jul 15, 2022

Is this offer location-agnostic? Given Airbnb’s new comp policy you can live anywhere you want and the comp remains the same?

Apple brnt123 OP Jul 15, 2022

This is correct. As long as you can work in PT timezone.

Roku RokWho Jul 15, 2022

That’s amazing! Fantastic offer then. Refer me when you’re in, they won’t give me a call

Salesforce vcxy23 Jul 15, 2022

Just keep pushing. If you’re courteous about it, I doubt they’re going to do anything beyond saying that this is best and final

Apple ilLv25 Jul 15, 2022

Is this non- tech role?

Apple brnt123 OP Jul 15, 2022

Why do you think so?

Airbnb &:&;! Jul 15, 2022

This is a great offer. Offers have gone down a bit due to work from anywhere policy. Airbnb is in great shape right now. Also stock is low. Good time to join.

Apple brnt123 OP Jul 15, 2022

Thank you! Are offices open these days? Do people go there? Do they serve food?

Airbnb &:&;! Jul 15, 2022

Offices are open but very few go. I believe they don't serve food these days.

Microsoft justme05 Jul 16, 2022

Isn't G10 a level bump from Apple ICT4? Or are EM levels at Apple different than IC ones? Curious how they didn't downlevel you. Maybe this plays a factor in them not wanting to budge higher?

Apple brnt123 OP Jul 16, 2022

It is a semi-bump. ICT4 is a very wide band and it overlaps with high L4, all L5 and low L6 in my opinion.

Airbnb &:&;! Jul 17, 2022

It would have been difficult for op to get G10 Staff offer as ict4 as it's a level bump. But since op is manager, M1 seems reasonable.

Microsoft THpg80 Jul 16, 2022

Op, do you have other offers to compete ? Or just use your current tc.

Apple CfEc78 Jul 17, 2022

Are you in AIML? Great TC for ICT4

Apple brnt123 OP Jul 18, 2022

Yes, AI/ML. After appreciation and refreshers.