Airbnb Vs Cruise

Jul 11, 2019 63 Comments

I have offers from each of these companies, any insight is helpful.

The Airbnb is substantially higher comp compared to the Cruise offer at current valuation, they also have a money making product and are close to IPO. Culture seems healthier at Airbnb too, and the office just felt significantly less... depressing.

Airbnb: 600K (250K base, 50K sign on + 25% annual bonus, 300K of RSUs)
Cruise: 450K (250K base, 50K sign on + 25% annual bonus, 150K of RSUs)

On the other hand, Cruise is in a fascinating problem space and my role there would have a lot of growth (the team has highly ambitious growth plans - but is not a core AV team, which might make things more frustrating). The recruiter seems to be banking on further equity upside, which seems very uncertain given how rapidly they've taken on funding.

Other than the growth, the roles are similar in terms of what I'd be doing.

Do Cruise or Airbnb employees have thoughts? I've read some pretty damning posts about Cruise here.

TC 285K, YoE 8

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  • Adobe / R&D
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    How is this even a question? I feel like OP is trolling....
    Jul 11, 2019 5
    • Cruise Automation wellyeah
      It’s real rough @ cruise
      Jul 11, 2019
    • Cruise Automation rotifbs28
      Wish I was in your position. Would have chosen Airbnb in a heartbeat and escape this shitty place.
      Jul 24, 2019
  • Cruise Automation bhWc45
    Airbnb: functional company but it's ... A hotel reservation company
    Cruise: so called "dysfunctional" but working on a hard real life rewarding problem.
    You pick. I was in a similar position and I picked cruise. Didn't regret it. If you don't give a fuck about what you work on then sure , maximize your TC and go to Facebook
    Jul 20, 2019 5
    • New qowSc4
      In my experience, Cruise is fucking toxic and WLB is shit. But you know just my experience. #seektruth.
      Jul 20, 2019
    • Cruise Automation SpaceRmy
      In my experience some teams exploit your hours with no chance of growth or even proper reward, but some others is just the opposite. Really depends on your team and leaders on the team. Don’t over generalize. You’re intelligent people.
      Aug 5, 2019
  • Google / Eng wBND06
    You'd be an idiot not to take Airbnb here. Significantly higher pay, nearing IPO, better culture. I didn't even know what Cruise was and it took me like 3 google searches for the company to even come up. The self driving market is super saturated right now. Do you expect a company owned by GM to beat out Google, Tesla, Apple, Uber, NVidia, BMW, and just about every Chinese tech company on the planet? How sure are you of that? Equity upside is far from ensured here.
    Jul 11, 2019 7
    • Google jhgb
      Lol what the duck is L2 AV? It's called fuckin cruise control and you can get that on Honda minivan. And how many Cadillacs did you sell to grandpa?

      Cruise is just throwing test cars at bad tech to get miles. Ask your new MBA CEO whether he really gets it or not
      Jul 17, 2019
    • Cruise Automation SpaceRmy
      Wow it’s hard to believe someone so ignorant and full of themselves is working for google. Well, actually not surprising given how big the whole place is.
      Aug 5, 2019
  • Cruise Automation bhWc45
    Is that a staff level offer ? Given your yoe it's an amazing offer.

    Honestly I was in the same boat as you when I signed for Cruise. I decided to go for the rewarding job working on a real life hard problem.
    Everything is definitely not perfect at Cruise. It really depends on the team. That being said I really feel like we are working on something that matters, and it makes you feel great at the end of the day.

    If you want money go for Airbnb. It's cash in hand money. Cruise RSUs might be worth a fortune or nothing...
    Airbnb is a hotel reservation website. It's going to be an easy peasy job there. Not a lot of challenge. Lot of money but pretty meaningless.
    Depends what you want.
    Jul 11, 2019 3
    • Cruise Automation SpaceRmy
      I won’t say Airbnb job is meaningless, especially if you don’t work on the prod side — e.g. for an infrastructure engineer, the gap between cruise and Airbnb is smaller, and you might even have reasons to say that right now, being an Infra engineer at Airbnb might be cooler at Airbnb because you actually have a huge international scale prod system to maintain. But you can also make a point about doing infra at Cruise being cooler because the company is still young and you get a chance to build a lot of things from scratch. That is a chance you hardly ever get anywhere else — well funded, very important question to solve, high requirements for reliability etc.
      Aug 5, 2019
    • Cruise Automation SpaceRmy
      On the culture side, I agree with this comment that it depends a lot on the team. But same is true for AirBnB, and even for Google. I know first hand that some Google team’s culture can be real fucking shit and it should not get compensated for by most other teams that are doing “just fine”, else there won’t be so many campaigns of “this is not OK Google” every year. Airbnb is also a highly political place, from what my close friends at Airbnb say.

      At the end of the day, what culture is toxic might depend on you. What do you want? Is it aligned with their culture? I know people who are super workaholics and like everyone else on their team to be, but such a team will no doubt be toxic for people who want a work life balance. Similarly, if you are a workaholic beast, you might literally throw up at a team of coworkers who can deliver more but choose not to because they want to only work 40 hours a week.
      Aug 5, 2019
  • Twitch brangot
    Airbnb without thinking twice even if the TC was the same
    Jul 11, 2019 0
  • Nvidia BTC40kXmas
    What. Are. Da. Offers. 🤔🤔
    Jul 11, 2019 3
    • Nvidia BTC40kXmas
      I've heard Cruise is a shit show, no need to take less money to go there
      Jul 11, 2019
    • Google jhgb
      It is a shitahow
      Jul 11, 2019
  • Airbnb SzMe10
    Airbnb! That's real money will be in your account very soon. AV is a few years away, and who knows which company will be the winner. You can join one of them a few years later.
    Jul 11, 2019 0
  • Cruise Automation powergrab
    Omg take Airbnb. Cruise is so dysfunctional.
    Jul 20, 2019 1
    • Cruise Automation SpaceRmy
      Sorry if you had a bad experience here. Try move team or go somewhere else?

      My experiences have been pretty good. I think it’s a team thing.
      Aug 5, 2019
  • Just so you know, the office is not the only thing that’s depressing at Cruise

    Join us to find out more !
    Jul 12, 2019 2
    • Google jhgb
      Lol someone who speaks truth
      Jul 12, 2019
    • Cruise Automation SpaceRmy
      I’m not convinced you’re a current employee, else you should know we have plenty of new office space coming that I won’t call depressing.

      Actually even the current one is fine. This is definitely personal preference so don’t act like it is objective.
      Aug 5, 2019
  • Uber / Eng fomo
    No question Airbnb fo sho
    Jul 11, 2019 0

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