CompensationDec 21, 2018
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Amazon / LinkedIn offer or stay at Google

Been at Google for 2 years, recently promoted to L4 with TC around 240k. Total exp: 3+ years Got an offer from LinkedIn and Amazon. Amazon is somehow really interested and gave a really really high offer, they are saying high L5 and promo should be fast. Both offers in bay area: Amazon - 170k base, 150k stocks over 4 years, 150k sign-on over 2 years. LinkedIn - 160k base, 250k stocks over 4 years, 10% yearly bonus, 50k sign-on. Will my salary at Amazon remain same since there are no refreshers till 4 years and base is high apart from any stock appreciation?

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Google FcSg75 Dec 21, 2018

It won't. Not unless you get promoted. If you join Amazon, assume you will be leaving in 2 years.

Facebook ayeyo Dec 21, 2018

Yea.... Amazon promotion rates are haphazard at best. If they are telling you promotion should be fast then try to negotiate for L6 now.

Amazon Jеff Bezоs Dec 21, 2018

Yeah. Good luck with getting L6 with 3 YoE. OP might as well try to negotiate for Principal while he’s at it.

Google jobchange OP Dec 21, 2018

Yeah that’s why they can’t consider me for L6 even though recruiter slated me for it. YOE is less, by fast promo I meant within 1-1.5 years. The compensation is definitely not typical L5.

Google SWE5 Dec 21, 2018

Sounds like you'll make more at Google. That Amazon equity package is a joke. I just got 150k as my *annual* refresher at L5. Equivalent package over 4 years would be 600k.

Credit Karma Fb_ftw Dec 21, 2018

Not to quibble, but there is a big difference between 150k refresher each year and a 600k rsu grant at time 0. 150k refresher is legit though, congrats.

Google jobchange OP Dec 21, 2018

They vest over 4 years right? Or are you saying you got 600k refreshers? I know with overlapping it will be higher.

Credit Karma Fb_ftw Dec 21, 2018

You make 240k at Google, and from what I can tell, Amazon offered you 255k? I’m summing the sign on and equity and vesting over 4 years to get that calculation. The LinkedIn offer comes in around 250k as well. Google >>> LinkedIn > amazon. Stay at Google.

Google jobchange OP Dec 21, 2018

Yeah comp is not the major factor. Obviously current TC doesn’t have any sign-on. I just want to explore something else. Maybe I will look for switching teams internally.

Credit Karma Fb_ftw Dec 21, 2018

Look at Uber/Lyft/Airbnb/Stripe. LinkedIn and amazon are big steps down for same comp.

Google FcSg75 Dec 21, 2018

Google has regular refreshers at all levels. Amazon, when I was there, didn't. So take that into account before you go to Amazon. Ask recruiter to tell you expected annual refresher. And what percentage of people get it.

Google jobchange OP Dec 21, 2018

No refreshers at Amazon without promo. That’s what I am relying on. L5 at Google seems like really far fetched.

Google FcSg75 Dec 21, 2018

Promo in Amazon may be as bad. So be careful

Walmart.com 233333 Dec 21, 2018

Feel like Amazon’s stock is a little low (base is very high for L5 though)…and LinkedIn offers SWE (very high SWE comp though) rather than senior SWE. If I were you and really hate my Google job, i would choose to go, otherwise I would probably stay for 1/2 more year(s) and get much higher comp later on.

Google jobchange OP Dec 21, 2018

Amazon compensates the stock with sign-on bonus. See it like you can count 100k of extra sign-on towards stock.

LinkedIn Vogy87 Dec 21, 2018

LI offer should be senior. If senior, rsus can go up to $300k. Base can go up as well but don't know the limit.

Tableau Zero Cool Dec 21, 2018

You say Amazon gave a really high offer, but it's kind of the same as your current TC.... And anything they say about promotion rate is just bs to make you join. It has absolutely zero truth

Google jobchange OP Dec 21, 2018

From Amazon standards this is really high. Amazon doesn’t pay as good as FLG.

Tableau Zero Cool Dec 21, 2018

Might be high, but I wouldn't say it's anything too far out from the norm. And it's not a good deal for you

Facebook poopybutt Dec 21, 2018

How's Amazon's offer really really high? It's pretty average. I got more than that few months ago but didn't switch.

Google jobchange OP Dec 21, 2018

For same YOE?

Facebook poopybutt Dec 21, 2018

A little less than yours.

LinkedIn Ann Johans Dec 21, 2018

LI is way to go, no brainer. Great food, great vacations, rest every workday!

LinkedIn youNme Dec 22, 2018

Your comps are not that much different. Instead, you should think about potential to grow your RSU value while they are not vested. You are getting 150k of RSU at Amazon, while LinkedIn gives you 250k. Assuming both grow equally, which is going to be worth in 4 years? Note that Amazon and Google dropped in value 30% to 40% from their recent highs. MSFT dropped 10%.