LayoffsMay 8, 2019
Amazonhusky8833

Amazon Pivot

Received Amazon Pivot yesterday. Was already interviewing within Amazon but final interview wasn’t done. PIP plan cannot be complete in given time frame and my manager also agrees but senior leadership won’t budge. Severance 21k. On H1B visa Suggestions? At Amazon since Aug 2017

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Amazon 🍪cutter May 8, 2019

Sorry to hear that husky. Did they not put you in dev list and gave you a formal dev plan. If not then have documented all the evidence to go for an appeal? I would say start looking outside and take severance and leave. PIP is not worth it.

Apple 🦄㊙️ May 8, 2019

Your career in Amazon has ended. Move on and never look back. Try Microsoft

Amazon SunnyWhale May 8, 2019

Since, you are on H1B you need to buy some time. So make an appeal and then if that does not go through work through your PIP. Severance wont help you a lot. Time is of essence considering you need time to prepare, interview, get offer and atleast wait for H1 transfer receipt.

Amazon n0v May 8, 2019

Document everything, especially if your manager agrees.

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cdPp78 May 8, 2019

May I ask what you did or didn't do to get to this point?

Amazon husky8833 OP May 9, 2019

The PIP plan is unrealistic and I asked whether the performance on PIP would be evaluated at the end of the plan. They said no. If early deliverable are missed, they can end and terminate with the reduced severance. No option to appeal the pivot. There was no indication on the dev plan and I pushed my manager to tell if I was in, he won’t say if I was or not. I even asked the career ambassador, they said the same thing. At this point, the best option I have is to take full severance with 2 week notice period.

Microsoft vxefcdrvsw May 17, 2019

Severance is 2 months' salary?

Microsoft bdjdk May 9, 2019

Just curious if this scenario is specific to some teams/orgs withing Amazon. Is it more in AWS and less in retail perhaps? Do you have to consistently miss the timelines to get on the list or even missing one deadline does that for you?

Microsoft vxefcdrvsw May 17, 2019

10% are PIPed every year, no matter what.

Amazon squak_01 May 20, 2019

Devices.. that org sucks

Amazon husky8833 OP May 9, 2019

As per the feedback, I missed a deliverable which was assigned a month ago and was expected to finish in 3 weeks. While developing we identified certain gaps in our input which pushed the deadline another two weeks. And that was it. I don’t think I missed any other deadlines ever. FYI: 2 more people in my team are changing team and another employee was terminated last month as she kind of shouted on my managers manager for setting up unreasonable tasks and he would even ask her to work on weekends . Overall, I should have changed teams earlier but was kind of loyal to the team. This is in Supply chain operations

Microsoft vxefcdrvsw May 17, 2019

Are you SDE1? Seems like many SDE1's hired in 2017, who couldn't get to SDE2 in 2 years, are getting PIPed now.

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Microsoft vxefcdrvsw May 17, 2019

Good suggestion

Microsoft vxefcdrvsw May 17, 2019

What is PIVOT? Does it mean take severance and leave?

Microsoft vxefcdrvsw May 17, 2019

OP, what option did you choose?