Hi there~, I interviewed for a position at Amazon and it goes well. But I am extremely worried about the PIP culture stories and WLB. Would any one inside give me more insights on this? Specifically my question is 1: What’s the percentage of PIP in finance/accounting 2: What’s the working hours in general. 3: Which finance team is relatively better in culture on how they recognize and treat people. 4: Any serious recommendation you would like to give to me if I choose to come. I would be really appreciated~.
This is a very broad q. Also a FM, never seen a PIP, work no more than 45 hours per week ever and usually around 40. I am in a biz partner role if that helps. Been here 5 years.
Amazon sucks
Amazon will suck the soul right out of you. Probably the worst company I ever worked for and I peaced out right before my 4 year vest to prioritize my own wellness over money. If you're young and have thick skin, willing to work hard regardless of how you're treated, then maybe try it out for a little while. I wouldnt worry so much about PIP, the only people I've seen get PIPed are the ones you wonder how they got the job in the first place 😅
Also a FM… have seen PIP in finance- need more tbh. WLB is what you make it to be. I work around 45 hours a week while a teammate is putting in 70 hours a week.
We’ve got a nice little thread of FMs here. Another FM checking in. I have seen one finance pip in my three years. I typically work around 45 hours a week, have seen some coworkers work crazy hours unnecessarily.
Finance has a terrible culture. The PIP culture is strong in finance because leaders don't want to admit that the finance org is broken. In terms of WLB its all about manager but VERY few managers feel strong enough to fight their leadership due to the VERY tops-down culture in Amazon finance. I would not take a finance role at Amazon right now. More things are breaking than are being fixed.
I was a FM, PIP culture is present. Similar to other functions managers get PIP and focus targets here as well. My observation on WLB, central, corporate roles have heavy lift on hours. Only roles I felt had a good WLB are FP&A for businesses (excluding CP&A). They are better for at least some part of the years but bad in planning cycle, Amazon have like 4-5 planning cycles within an year(stupid, but again driven by top down leadership). P.S- I was not on PIP, but knew at least 4 L6 who were either on PIP or focus.
How long is actually each planning cycle?
Two main planning cycles OP1 and OP2. It varies across orgs. But OP1 is a 3 year plan and OP2 is a one year plan. OP1 starts around July and ends in August with leadership reviews in September. OP2 is around November and ends in December with leadership reviews jan- feb
In the orgs I was part of, one 3YF, two R&O quarterly forecast, OP1 and OP2. So five in an year. Takes around 3 weeks work with all the meetings with 3YF, and OP1 May take around 1.5 months
The planning cycles are a never ending state of wanting to jump off the nearest bridge.
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1)FM @ AMZ. Not a lot of PIP stories in finance. 2) depends on the team but 60+ per week during planning cycles 3) if you find one do share 4) network and build relations with business partners
Thanks a lot!
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