I have been working in Amazon for a year in PXT and I cannot speak enough of this culture. It’s probably one of the worst places I have been worked at. I am currently thinking of quitting because my mental health is highly affected and my health in general isn’t the best after joining this place. Actually I’m just venting out here. I’ve had multiple interviews but still nothing confirmed. I feel sad & depressed almost all the time. Any advice?
Why I always see post about the toxic culture in Amazon. Don’t the higher management look into how the managers are leading their teams and culture of the org ?
It is super strange. It seems everyone here complains about a toxic culture. My perception from the EU stores org is that this is a pretty great place to work. My management line is inspiring, the job content is interesting… The only thing that sucks is the pay. The salaries in Europe are totally SHIT! L6 Mgr / €140K TC
Went to Amazon and I knew on day 1 that I made the worst decision of my entire life.
Let’s say you have FU money and just need a job to do something interesting. Is it possible to just do the job according to the role description (true 40 hrs a week) and avoid the games and pressure or eventually find a good role? Or do you get PIP’d immediately? Or just a bad way to ruin your career?
@waymo From my experience (8.75 years) in most orgs if you don't play the game you'll be on the chopping block in short order. 40 hours per week gets you there even faster. After my second child I prioritized family and tried to distance from the monkey dance, it bit me. Despite 7am at my desk (to work with Chennai, New York, and London/Lux teams) and late night hours (10/11pm calls with Chennai) I was reprimanded for not being available for 5/6 pm Seattle meetings or after hour events and not being immediately available on weekends. Team and management line will change this experience but in my experience if you're not constantly trying to reach next level it's a signal that you're not a good fit.
I know what that feels (not in PXT but in general). Talking helps, just venting out or getting an alternate perspective! Happy to talk if you want, dm.
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Yeah I hate Amazon, yet I love money
PxT is big. Which senior manager are you under?
Lol, this wouldn’t be blind anymore, eh ^^
Nice try HR bootlicker
Here is ur exit path from Amzn ----Shared on Amazon forum please copy and distribute------- (Internal Mantra to keep on loop when dealing with your Amazon / AWS manager is "the lying liar lieth and still they lie their lies" which can help frame and guard your level of communication.) You need to forget about all work for Amazon except giving the appearance of doing bare minimum - start coasting that skit banana funded work right now!! Concentrate fully on interview prep and lining up external interviews with employers or if you are on visa then only visa sponsoring employers. Lets assume that you are in USA and have one year of penitude / servitude completed with Amazon / AWS so then you are eligible for paid FMLA leave..... this is a well trodden path (its Amazon so there are plenty of medics who will sign off around the WA HQ) so you will have no problems. You do NOT WAIT for PIP but you start now whilst in Focus and your approach should be: 1) Dev List / Focus / Coaching which is the stealth tracking period where your manager does not need to even inform you that they are working against you and coercing your colleagues and others for anything negative (only the negative) against you and measuring you up for a PIP to the head.... you are also blocked from internal transfer without unobtainable VP override. 2) During the above get your medic to listen to your droning about the stress and mental anguish that Amazon / AWS is placing you under... also ask if they can sign off or refer you to a therapist who can do so urgently as the stress is ubearable (use the phrase unbearable stress and anguish and specifically also say that you need some weeks away from it under FMLA)... FMLA evidence flag is set... 3) Amazon manager presents you with Pivot document and you have 5 days to choose Tier 1 severance or take PIP plan.... BANG this is where you submit FMLA into the DLS portal before the 5 days decision period is expired (DLS team need a day or so to respond to you so get this rolling at the start of the Amazon Pivot decision window) and then go on leave. Your backstabbing Amazon / AWS manager and HR cannot intervene if you do this as it is a separate team and *federal* mandated leave. The whole decison window for Pivot / PIP is now mandatorily paused beyond their control.... if it was within their control then they would of course be trying to sink you at every opportunity - its Amazon! 4) Get FMLA paperwork completed by the medic who you have already lined up and prepped earlier and submit that supporting material into the DLS team. 5) Tear through your interview preparation and job hunting networking to hiring companies and dont even consider one hour of work for Amazon... extend FMLA through renewal with the medic up to 12 weeks and throw in caring for family member as that is FMLA allowable too if your family are stressed that you are stressed.... so now you have taken 16 weeks of paid FMLA leave on Amazon's frugal dime. (FMLA is partly paid if u also file for Short term disability) 6) Burn through any paid PTO and sick days before returning to work too as only unused vacation time will be cashed out upon exit. 7) Accept the job offer from a better employer (there are so many compared to Amazon / AWS that if you throw a rock then you will hit upon one), which you undoubtedly will already have received by this time. 8) If you are on a visa then get the visa transfer process rolling under premium processing by the new employer. 9) Return to Amazon / AWS and take the maximum Tier 1 severance option instead of PIP, since every step after not taking that decision reduces the exit payout from frugal Amazon severely. 10) Cash the Tier 1 severance from Amazon and the sign on bonus from your new visa sponsoring employer and roll around on the floor surrounded by hundred dollar bills. 11) Return to Blind and tell the community all about it..... not forgetting to add your new TC tax to the post!!! Bonus level... 12) Rock it like a superstar and position yourself onto hiring panels in your new employer and never ever let an ex-Amazon/AWS manager get through..... your new colleagues will thank you. :-D Fifty percent of new hires gone within a year and average tenure only eighteen months.... hence the RSU vest after two years and tiny low 401K match from third year. Most folks will not see a big chunk of that TC (Frugality Leadership Principle). Rule 1 = Avoid Amazon / AWS Rule 2 = Avoid any companies which hire ex Amazon / AWS managers Rule 3 = Follow Rule 1 and In your next company join the hiring panels to keep Rule 2 enforced It is the way...... and in dealing with Amazon it is a very common well travelled way... happy trails.
I see every second post about Amazon's sick culture. But I do believe money silences everything. We are okay to take this shit. And we choose this. Also, investors and capitalists love this approach.
I was also in pxt left in 3 months it was super super toxic which org?
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