CompensationApr 9, 2018
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Amazon offer poll

I'm trying to analyze the pattern of Amazon offers. Lately, their offers are very low on equity because they know that their stock grows like a steroid infused bull. Probably, the ones who joined Amazon in 2014 are millionaires by now. Would you guys share the offers in this format - position/RSUs/year of offer. My offer: SDE2/100/2018

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Amazon gandu Apr 9, 2018

QAE2/200/2015

Oracle Longshort OP Apr 9, 2018

What's QAE2? And, that's a good number of RSUs.

Amazon Flipmain Apr 9, 2018

No, because that would identify me. However if I had kept my whole initial grant it would now be worth over 8 million bucks. Unfortunately I diversified and sold it all when it vested. Since then my later grants were worth a lot and I also sold them. I’m still richer than I ever expected, but if I’d kept it all I’d be in a different league.

Oracle Longshort OP Apr 9, 2018

You know Amazon has gazillion employees, right? How would that identify you?! Anyway, it's your choice. And, good for you!

Amazon RBMY63 Apr 9, 2018

Amazon is also data-driven. I am guessing by me posting even with a range someone in HR could get the list of 7 or so that fall into that band. If this person had a “unique” offer, the share count, year and role could go a long way.

Amazon RBMY63 Apr 9, 2018

SDE2/360-380(some attempt at anonymizing)/2012

Oracle Longshort OP Apr 9, 2018

Great! Do they give out refreshers every year? I have heard if your total comp meet the band for that level you wouldn't get any refreshers. Is that true?

Amazon RBMY63 Apr 9, 2018

It’s complicated. It’s nothing to do with band, it’s your total comp target. If you have blown past your target comp due to stock growth and unvested shares you definitely will get tiny or no adjustments regardless of performance. Generally refreshes happen on the third review cycle and into the future, as your initial grant goes away.

Pandora NicePanda Apr 9, 2018

SDE2/100/2018 same as op thank god they won’t identify me ;)

Oracle Longshort OP Apr 9, 2018

Haha.. Are you taking that offer?

Pandora NicePanda Apr 9, 2018

Don’t know yet. It’s insane how having this offer in hand made every one else step up their game though.

Amazon wnxK34 Apr 9, 2018

SDE1 / 60-70 / 2017 was my original offer. Keep in mind that your first year or so you probably won't see any of it. Vesting schedule is loaded towards the back pretty heavily

Oracle Longshort OP Apr 9, 2018

Yea, I'm aware of that. It's a good offer considering one of my friends got around 30-40 RSUs late 2017.

Amazon GLtN08 Apr 18, 2018

Is your friend an SDE?

Microsoft 20% raise Apr 9, 2018

Um you shouldn't count on share appreciation...

Amazon Jooooba Apr 10, 2018

At Amazon you can. 15% is built into the model and they give you extra in any year that it didn’t cover that 15% in the prior year. However, they’ve hit higher than 15% (typically much) every year this decade.

Microsoft foos ballz Apr 10, 2018

Yeah it's bullshit. The recruiters try to make this point when they sell the offer. It's wrong to assume any appreciation in TC yoy

Amazon Sup Girl Apr 10, 2018

L5/250/2015

Oracle Longshort OP Apr 10, 2018

Thanks. How were your refreshers?

Amazon Sup Girl Apr 10, 2018

They were shit

Amazon Cascade Apr 10, 2018

L5/120/2017

Amazon eVhU65 Apr 10, 2018

L6/450/2016

Amazon RBMY63 Apr 10, 2018

Good timing. Stock between 500 and 800. Within the next year 35-40% vest,

Oracle Longshort OP Apr 10, 2018

That's really good! I assume you got very less refreshers because of the stock growth.

Amazon DayThree Apr 10, 2018

L6/80-90/2017 , non-US

Amazon Jooooba Apr 10, 2018

L6 SDE?

Amazon DayThree Apr 10, 2018

Naw, non-tech