Apple / Amazon offer comparison

Brocade Abcd yo
Nov 28, 2017 41 Comments

Amazon:
72k split over 2 years
152 base + 115 rsu units (standard Amazon vesting schedule 5,15 etc)
Seattle

Apple:
65k sign on
155 base + 130k rsu (25% /y)
Cupertino

Other aspects:
- Amazon doesn't have ESPP and 401k sucks
- How does Apple / Amazon compare w.r.t compensation at performance appraisals
- what's the typical rsu grants given year over year at these companies
- Apple seems to have good employee benefits compared to Amazon

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  • Amazon zstop
    Just go to Apple and thank me later. Amazon stock will keep growing and your hike gets subdued by it and total compensation BS. This year I got 15% hike theoretically with no real hike (0.5% base increment)
    Nov 28, 2017 4
    • Amazon Cybermnday
      Just for the record, Amazon stock went up 60% this year.

      Maybe number of RSUs didn’t go up, but at the end of the day you can sell what you have and get 15% more than originally planned.

      But I agree, I wish it wasn’t based on stock price but number of RSUs. All of us would have been rich now 😁
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Apple zzyyxx
      This year pretty much all big 5 stocks went up by 30-50% but it had no impact on refreshers at least at apple. They are all based on last year performance and almost 100% for top performers.
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Microsoft LxgQ86
    Doesn't Amazon reduce the number of RSUs if stock goes up ?
    Nov 28, 2017 4
    • Microsoft / Product
      Karsa

      Microsoft Product

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      startups
      Karsamore
      I've heard that story many times. At the end of the day, we all make out pretty well and can't complain too much. :). Fwiw msft stock went up 40% vs 60% and has no bearing on annual rewards
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Amazon cayde-6
      It's pretty common to get no RSUs during the first 4 years because you already have vests for every year. The only reason you would get more is if the stock price fell, or you got promoted.
      Jun 29, 2018
  • Apple mr.cook
    Other thing to consider here is - Apple’s vesting starts after 6 months and vests 12.5 percent every 6 months
    Nov 28, 2017 0
  • Amazon / Eng threeFity
    What level is this offer for?
    Nov 28, 2017 2
  • SEVENROOMS / Eng
    DEADB33F

    SEVENROOMS Eng

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    Amazon
    DEADB33Fmore
    As much as I am not a fan of Amazon, Washington has no state income tax so you effectively keep an additional 10% of your money
    Nov 28, 2017 1
    • Cisco IglF88
      And Seattle is still cheaper even though it's pretty expensive now
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Apple Bnhjk56
    Is this ICT3 or 4 at Apple?
    Nov 28, 2017 4
    • Brocade Abcd yo
      OP
      What's the best I can pitch in for RSUs ? Amazon beats on this aspect
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Pure Storage / Eng Leetcode99
      I have seen 160K RSU as pretty standard
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Apple zzyyxx
    What is your profile?
    Based on the org and team you will get refresher around 75-100% each year if you perform above and beyond
    Nov 28, 2017 2
    • Brocade Abcd yo
      OP
      75-100% of base ? This is wireless software org
      Nov 28, 2017
    • Apple zzyyxx
      Yes base, if you get 8/9 ratings and very valuable to team
      Nov 28, 2017
  • Apple / Eng AppleDood
    I switched from amazon to Apple 5 years ago. Apple is way better than amazon wrt to benefits and employee happiness. Also no on call and RSU refreshers are great if u are a good performer. Really high refereshers . Note though like all big companies depends on your team and org. AmA.
    Nov 28, 2017 2
    • Brocade Abcd yo
      OP
      I was hearing similar comments wrt refresher rsus, thanks for your inputs though.
      Nov 28, 2017
    • New / Eng PragaCoder
      How much percent of salary or initial RSU grant do they give rsu refreshers? Sorry if I sound dumb. Will be joining Apple in few weeks and wanted to know this.
      Jan 2, 2018
  • Apple Nohandle
    I worked for both companies , if you only care about money Apple is awesome . If you wish to learn engineering aspect of things amazon is better . If you wish to grow in management aspect go for Apple
    Nov 29, 2017 1
    • Apple / Eng AppleDood
      Depends on where you are in Amazon and what you are working on . Maybe if he’s in aws he would learn more at Amazon than Apple - conversely in his case ( seeing he works on wireless) he is more likely to learn more here than at Amazon.
      Nov 29, 2017
  • Apple / Eng
    Pokerjoker

    Apple Eng

    PRE
    Google
    BIO
    Don’t know what the hell i’m doing with my life!!
    Pokerjokermore
    ~100% refresh of your base salary is pretty common if you are a good performer.
    Nov 28, 2017 0

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