Got through the on-sites with this org for swe role at ICT3 level. Team seems great and potential for growth seems high. What do you guys think? TC: 220 YOE: 2.5 #apple Edit: Ended up accepting it. Team and growth potential seem a lot higher than my current space
I had an onsite as well with ads platform. Is it for ML platform or feature engineering team ?
Feature engineering. What about you?
Same. Can I DM you ?
Given that you are from Google, do not join Apple as an ICT3, which is pretty much like a new grad level and is really not much better than L3. I wouldn't do it unless they can offer ICT4 or the pay raise is at least 30%. Promotions/growth at Apple generally is not fast and stops for most people at ICT4 so not much better than Google. Also if you join now, you won't really be eligible for refreshers or bonus till end of next year, since right now is basically near the end of the review cycle so factor that into your calculations.
Isn’t ICT3 a wide band which goes halfway through L4 too? Looks that way on Levels. Def agree about the pay, stand to make more at google if I stay and so I’m negotiating hard there but I’m quite bored with the work and challenges I get to face here and really want to grow as an engineer while I still have the drive. Orgs at Apple seem to be separate silos and so Avenue for growth seems more with the right visibility. Also no shared tools/infra and no perf
Ict3 is same as L4 at Google.
Which location?
What did you end up deciding?
location?
Missed responding to these for a while! Location is Cupertino
do you like your new team/work?
I haven’t started yet, just accepted the offer. Will be starting sometime in the next month and a half!
how are the rsu refresher and bonus as compared to other teams at Apple?
Not a good decision
why?
hey op you still available here?
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Personal Eng growth is slower than I expected and I wanna work with more transferable tech stacks
Dude, transferable skills are mainly leadership skills and communication skills to drive the project forward. Don't go after a tech stack.