Apple ICT5 (staff) offer expectations?

Asking for a friend who's in FAANG already and is being asked for expectations for the offer. Apple told him it'd be ICT5. 7 yoe, grad degree, aced the interviews, SWE, not AI/ML org, Bay area. Thanks

Sony fbisbest Aug 15, 2022

220 base, 200 $tonks

Apple y65df09 OP Aug 15, 2022

That's even lower than his current TC :)

Microsoft houseland Aug 15, 2022

That would be a massive low-ball. almost bottom of band.

Apple owwwwww Aug 15, 2022

Really depends on the org and competing offer. I would say don’t sign unless it’s on par with other staff offers at top companies. Base: 220-250k RSU: 800k-1M Sign on: 100k

Apple y65df09 OP Aug 15, 2022

Anything below 1M is low for staff. He's thinking 1.5M. Is this too high for Apple?

Apple owwwwww Aug 15, 2022

I’ve never seen more than 1.2m. I am in AIML

Google daaMD233 Aug 15, 2022

Friend doesn’t know how to use blind?

Apple y65df09 OP Aug 15, 2022

Haha he's too busy for this.

Apple bzi Aug 15, 2022

Not getting ict5 for that yoe

Apple y65df09 OP Aug 15, 2022

Well, he already did. It's not a generic swe. It's a specific field and he has 7 yoe in industry plus grad degree with published papers in the same field.

Apple bzi Aug 15, 2022

Did he show you the offer? I have been around for a long time to know how things works here

Apple yTfR70 Aug 15, 2022

ICT5 for 7 yoe. That’s crazy/impressive if your friend really got ICT5 level.

Apple y65df09 OP Aug 15, 2022

He's already at staff level in his current company.

Meta ndhg Aug 15, 2022

Got ICT5 for AI/ML about a year ago package was 260k 1.5 mln 100+45 sign on over 2 years Had a few competing offers like this

Sandia National Laboratories yMKs21 Aug 15, 2022

Wow. This is for staff?

Sandia National Laboratories yMKs21 Aug 15, 2022

Oh I see. That’s like IC6 or L5 in most places.

Apple new-c Aug 15, 2022

Usually apple don’t hire external ICT5. May be they offered him IC5. Check your offer

Apple owwwwww Aug 15, 2022

Not anymore. My group hired quite a few external ict5 engineers.

Apple new-c Aug 15, 2022

Then ict5 is new ict4 ??

Uber QajO06 Aug 16, 2022

My offer for ic5: 220 base+ 850k bonus+ 85k sign on. I have phd. When i joined apple i had 5 yoe. (It was two years ago)