164K -> 161K employees 2022 to 2023, a reduction of 3K or about 2% of the company. Screenshot from https://www.wsj.com/economy/jobs/tech-layoffs-keep-coming-why-is-head-count-barely-budging-760a314b
Cool What’s your total comp
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They always need to seem like they are better than all of us, they are above layoffs
But they are better than Google
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There’s normal attrition that could account for that if there’s no hiring
1.8% reduction over 1 year almost certainly not a layoff, that just means they didn't backfill roles
This ^ they stopped backfilling
This is somewhat complicated by the fact that more than half of these are retail employees and those constantly come and go
Half in retail WOW. Apple has 400B revenue and 3T market cap with just 80K head count. That is why your jobs are safe even when everyone had headcount reduction.
Honestly I think half is a very conservative number. Like it may be as high as 60-70% of employees are just retail or customer support. So the number of actual corporate people may be as low as 50-60k.
OP genius that’s not a good enough evidence for your argument. Attrition is an inevitable part of any business. As long as they hire less than the number of people that leave the company, their headcount will go down.
@coder911 I get that you’re sad about what’s happening in the Middle East, but how’s that relevant to my comment? 🤔
Does that number include retail employees? If that’s case, that’s the same situation as Amazon. Both Apple/Amazon are seeing a net reduction in their HC from peak numbers. It’s probably due to an increase in automation/changes in buying pattern. IMO, Apple is the best at managing headcount and moving people around. Seems like Meta only knows how to dump people and then go out 6 months later and hire someone else at higher costs.
It does include retail and seasonal employees.
They forced attrition with RTO and almost no accommodations. I wasn’t accommodated temp remote until my wife’s health recovered, and left in 2023. No backfill and infact entire org was re-orged.
3K is a weekly focus quota for the smallest orgs at Amazon. This can be done via attrition itself, no need to layoff. That said, if they course corrected and laid off, nothing wrong with it either. Amazon will drop that much on a Friday after vesting in May.
So no one loud quits?