I have an offer from Apple and a traditional company trying to get into digital side of things. While they are ready to beat my base salary offer at Apple, they find the numbers I shared about annual stock refresh (based on my discussion with the hiring manager and discussions on Blind) a bit over optimistic. Would some of you be kind enough to answer this question non anonymously on Quora? ( I don't think screenshots of conversation on Blind or anonymous Quora answers would be believable) https://www.quora.com/unanswered/What-range-of-annual-stock-grants-and-bonuses-can-I-expect-at-Apple-at-IC4-program-manager-role
why not share the apple offer letter with the other company?
It would seem op doesn't have one...
I have the offer letter, but it does not talk about the annual stock refresh.
😂 Got caught with your hand in the cookie jar eh?
What do you mean? I'm not familiar with that saying.
it means you got caught trying to take more than was rightfully yours.
I never got stock refresh number written in the offer letter. I think companies don't do it. it depends on performance.
That's why I'm asking for help here. :-)
Op, use anonymous mode and answer your own question with the stock refreshers you asked for :p
You want to work for Apple and to negotiate you’re asking Apple employees to break rule #1? (Rule #1, You don’t talk about Apple)
Why can't we answer it here? In our offer letters, there's nothing about guaranteed stock refreshers...
Use the search in blind. People have been reporting 100K per year.
I use to work there in the Bay Area as dev. 160 base for ICT4 (which is considered by most to be their senior band, although it's a tall band). Each year I got hipo comp of $120k stock refresh. I got $170k stock coming in. 10% target bonus and $30k sign on. I didn't negotiate much. You can probably negotiate up to 50k sign on and 200k sign on stock, even more if you're special talent with rare skillset although they have a line of people waiting to get in (but they reject a ton until they find someone especially suited for the role before making an offer; if they did make you one you have the power so negotiate). They don't promise stock refresh it's just something you get. I was easily making over $300k each year. I had an office with a leather couch (first day). Best of luck
Did you take pay cut when you moved to Microsoft?
Just tell the company you are ready to join them if they give you X. If they don't you are taking the offer from Apple. Doesn't matter a flying fuck if they believe or not what Apple's refreshers are. If they believe you are worth it they will give you what you ask for.
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So a non anonymous reply on Quora will convince the hiring manager to give you that offer ?
No idea if it'll help, but I can try. Right?