Apple folks who did an internal transfer - is pay and grade negotiable or will it be a lateral move? Have been thinking about making a move and wanted to know if asking for a raise(since I joined on a low ball offer) or a higher grade as IC is even a possibility? I ask this because at my previous company, internal transfer were lateral- no pay or grade changes were possible. Thanks! Yoe:5+yrs Tc:160k
You can make a lateral move from management to individual contributor or vice versa. The level would stay the same, for instance M2 would be IC5 and vice versa.
Nobody would hire a manager with zero hands on experience.
That's not true. With your argument nobody would ever be promoted to a manager as well, since everyone at some time does not have any management experience. Regardless, folks can move from M->IC->M or other such combinations. For instance a tech lead who has never been a people manager, and is an IC, can be hired as a manager because as a tech lead you develop the skills needed to manage folks.
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it’s lateral, no change in tc or title.
Thanks! Have you done that and what was the experience like? I read horror stories about current managers blocking the move and so on..
No but your manager cannot block your move but if you don’t find a job quick enough (after disclosing your intent to move) you may be in trouble.