CompensationJun 19, 2018
NewUUVG54

Apple offer

Bay area. Phd + 15 years. Hwe. Current TC 315k. Apple first and final offer. No room to negotiate. Base/rsu/sign 228k/300k/20k Is it a good offer? Any suggestions?

AMD Vega10 Jun 19, 2018

Seems low. Looks like low end iic5. May be signon can be bumped

Tesla sQei45 Jun 19, 2018

No it's shit. Push for double in stock

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SuBi51 Jun 19, 2018

Why not triple stock? Or 1M stock?

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CoreLogic 1224567990 Jun 19, 2018

Paper money. Albeit probably good money soon.

Juniper abc123cde Jun 21, 2018

Lol paper money 😂😂

Apple oXEY52 Jun 19, 2018

Apple does yearly refreshers and they can be quite good. That is a high offer and I would evaluate it more like 450k. It does mean you have to stick around and wait for the refreshers to snowball which isn’t guaranteed but you can also bail at any time if you aren’t satisfied.

Adobe 2Big2Fail Jun 19, 2018

Most SV companies only pay out RSU “refreshers” to a portion of eligible population (typically <50%) based on relative performance and potential. Is it different at Apple? If not, I wouldn’t count on RSUs as annual compensation just because I got them at sign on. It’s a total unknown until first cycle where you get management’s POV of you vs your peers. You should have that calibration at your current company but it’s an unknown at a new company until you go thru one full cycle.

Amazon Life will Jun 19, 2018

What’s the level? Why do you want to consider this offer when it’s roughly the same ?

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UUVG54 OP Jun 19, 2018

Could you provide an approx. range on yearly cash bonus and refresher at this yoe?

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UUVG54 OP Jun 19, 2018

Don't know the level. They don't disclose.

VMware waremv Jun 19, 2018

Why don’t they disclose the level? Do you get to eventually find out if you join or is the leveling information confidential?

Apple naidraug2 Jun 19, 2018

Judging from the base it looks like ICT5.

TI IOlOl0 Jun 19, 2018

I’ve seen offers at 180k with 300k rsu for phd with 4-5 YOE. They had a competing offer from tesla though which helped them match to 300k rsu instead of 120k rsu

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TCorGTHO Jun 19, 2018

Years of experience does not correlate linearly to comp. Even a monkey knows that

Microsoft mo$ Jun 19, 2018

Apple has money. They can definitely offer 50k sign on and north of 400 in rsu.

Apple iSuck123 Jun 19, 2018

Sign-on seems low. If you're ICT4 the sign-on can be as high as $75k. I'm sure it's $100-125k for ICT5.