Tech IndustryApr 22, 2020
Appleuserename

Apple vs Google for Test Engineers (Automation + Manual)

Software QA engineer here with python expertise (Automation, Tools). Been at Apple for a few years, I have been thinking of switching due to: - Repetitive work schedule every week - Time spent on project management chores more than actual testing - Never find time to automate or write tools bcz just the manual test takes up the whole week (not bcz I can’t test faster but due to the amount of churns and types of tests) - Honestly QA feels like a joke around here, lacks integrity, team succumbs to pressure from dev, doesn’t stand up for what we believe is the right thing to do If anyone has experience or insight into how different Apple and Google are for Test Engineers (A & M) roles, it really helps. TC: 240K YOE: 8 total, 3 in Apple Org: SWE #google #apple

Coherent Logix Alpha_7 Apr 22, 2020

Can you please elaborate a little more about what kind of manual testing do you do?

Apple userename OP Apr 22, 2020

We test the new features on a daily/weekly basis, and some regression testing too

Coherent Logix Alpha_7 Apr 22, 2020

I got that. By manual testing, do you mean that you use the product in a particular way to find bugs in its various components? Or do you write scripts in bash or tcl to automate running tests that were written by others?

Amazon PrimeDay Apr 22, 2020

If this work doesn’t enthuse you, why don’t you move to SDET for more challenging problems ?

Apple userename OP Apr 22, 2020

I don’t want to be in pure automation/coding role. I like learning new features with everyone. I like a healthy combination of manual and automation

Infor tdPR12 Sep 10, 2020

Which companies have pure automation role anyway? i heard SDET do both manual and automation

HPE k o t l In Apr 22, 2020

TC and yoe at Apple ? And which Org you work for ?

Apple userename OP Apr 22, 2020

Oops added now

Twitter swebird Apr 23, 2020

Sounds like you should move to SDET role. Do you have SDETs in Apple who do no manual testing and write tools and frameworks ? That will keep you motivated it seems

Coherent Logix Alpha_7 Apr 23, 2020

What do you mean by "write tools & frameworks"? Could you please elaborate a little more?

Clover Network XuNb52 Mar 31, 2021

@userename is there an opening in your team? I would happily join your team for that TC.