Whats up att folks? how much of this is for real? https://insights.dice.com/2019/12/30/att-layoffs-outsourcing-h-1b-denials/ #h1b #att #atnt #h1b
A phone company doing shitty things? I’m shocked.
Real problem here is why would they need to layoff people in the first place. Perhaps for the management team, hiring extra workforce and then laying them off is just the simplest way to hit a short-term arbitrary goal. Employees to them are just resources they can manipulate to achieve short-term financial goals. A talented entry/medium level US citizen worker would probably not stay at this kind of company over somewhere with either higher TC or better treatment to employees anyway. Sorry for the rant, just finished the book "The Infinite Game" by Simon Sinek and he talked about this exact issue in the book.
Oh no not at all. I am interested. Can u elaborate some more?
He talked about how a lot of companies orperate on a short-term vision now as if looking good on annual financial report and please the investors are the company's only purposes. Since business is an infinite game ( it never ends, players who run out of resources or lost will leave the game), he thinks companies should be focusing on surviving the game with their founding values as guidance than on ”winning" the unwinnable endless game. He used companies like Kodak, blackberry, and the record industry to demonstrate how the short-term mindset can hurt a company when technological/social changes happen. On the flip side he mentioned companies such as Victornix on how they adapt to the new changes(no knives in carry-on bags) based on their core values without layoffs and become ever more profitable. He mentioned that the annual layoffs is becoming a common way to get work done, cut the cost and look good on paper, but the leadership failed to consider the impact on the employees' morals. He believes that the leadership is not directly responsible for the company's output but instead for the people who are responsible for that output, so treating employees like equipments don't make any sense in the long-run. However, only a few CEOs care about what the company would be like once they step down and collect their checks nowadays. In the book he breaks his ideas into very specific details and offers plenty of examples, in 1000% better writing than mine. The core idea is along the lines of ”dont do shitty stuff and believe in your value, then your company will survive in the long run." I don't agree with all of his ideas but it's a good read nevertheless :)
Its very real. Though, the layoffs were coming due to the massive debts from mergers (DirecTV and timewarner). AT&T also feels very threatened by faang and they really feel only way long term is to be really lean. The h1b worker usage is more universal. Outside of the faang and pure tech companies using contractors very ubiquitous.
This isn’t about h1 abuse. It’s about how private equity works - by doing leveraged buyouts and acquisitions.
“They aren’t being offered severance or early retirement, and may not easily find a comparable job elsewhere with similar pay.” I mean how skilled are you compared to these so called H1 abusers if you can't find a similar job elsewhere.
A corollary to your question would be how skilled the h1 worker has to be if these jobs didn't require that much skill. And u r forgetting the citizens don't have to be skilled workers but by definition h1 employees have to be.
My experience: most folks who can't get other jobs are long serving folks who got in with a high school degree/bachelor degrees from questionable institutions. Their context of existing systems is confused as skill. Ask them to make any changes to existing systems and shit gets messed up and extremely expensive real fast. This is where indian IT service companies excel. Even though their rank and file maybe be just marginally more skilled than existing workers but they have enough smart leaders and a collective work ethic to get things done
Job market is hot and there is a drought of people in IT. Two things that are in play here are ageism (racism against 50+ people) and people working long enough in same job for years without learning anything new.
From my perspective the deals that were done are very shady in the aspect that they were structured to avoid paying any severance benefits to employees that end up on ‘year and a day’ contracts where they are fired from the company they are sent to after a year and a day. They then get severance as if they worked at said company for only a year. I think there is plenty of fat to cut at a company like AT&T but doing it like this leaves a really bad impression.
TLDR: Trump’s fuckery on H1b is not enough to stop companies from laying off lazy people and making their business more efficient.
You think every employee in the entire IT dept is lazy? your lack of apathy for your host country is appalling.
@Oracle. These jobs are going to go away to low cost centers as they don’t need much skills. I have seen how these teams grow over the time and then become burden on the employers. There is nothing Donald 🦆 can do about it. Its just how capitalism works.