IEEEZapata57

What should I have done?

I am suffering from trauma due to an incident in the past and need your view as to what you would have done in my shoes. This might be a tad bit long but worth it - it is probably less about mental health and more about what you would do in terms of office politics: Joined a well-known startup in Europe as a Jr. Operations Manager. This startup is very well-known and has IPO'd already. 80% of the people - my manager included - were < 35 years old. Cue the following events occurred: > My role emulated that of an Internal Consultant working with overhauling the Customer Service processes in a short span of time. Naturally, there was some resistance from said department - rather than supporting me for the task that he himself assigned, my manager used to publicly throw me under the bus in front of everyone, berating any comment I shared during meetings. > 3 weeks after I joined, the CS lead emailed how I talk down which was completely made up! (to that, even my manager himself agreed), plausibly to deflect from the systematic changes I was pushing. But it was a straw that started a lot. CS lead and my manager were best friends. > I was the only brown guy in the team and was constantly ignored from team events right from the day one. I am, ironically enough, highly extroverted and communicative and yet, I was excluded most of the time. 6/9 of the team members were the manager's own home country and university. He was openly racist and often remarked how he was surprised someone from my country could speak English so well and wondered why I was not working in IT. > He did not hold a 1:1 more than once in 5 months and was always busy. (Compared to another colleague of mine who joined at the same time, she was European fwiw) Ultimately, my probation period was not extended and I was devastated as I was on a visa. I asked him for the reason and he told me they were looking to hire someone more experienced...for a position that was titled Jr. Operations Manager and the job post explicitly said fresh grad/up to 2 years experience which I had. I thought of informing the HR but figured they are here to protect the company and not me - and would make some other random reason in this case to lay me off. I did persuade him to let me work 2 months extra to wrap up the project that I was overseeing to which he agreed. Project itself was completed in record time and to the stakeholder's praise. Note, I simultaneously worked on 4 different major projects at the same time - I used to work 12-14h a day (despite European labor laws), delivered to publicly high praise of country manager, and got booted. Also got to know I was paid 60% of what my other colleague was getting paid. I had left a 9-5 WLB, well-paid job in banking earlier because of the startup koolaid and this experience completely marred my view of that. It later on took me 9 months to find a job and that too in my home country. These series of events wrecked my confidence to an absolute low level. 3 years on, I have moved on, I'm at a much better firm in my home country and recouped a lot of my lost "self". Yet I am curious as to what you would have done in my shoes? How you would have navigated all this? #depression #mentalhealth #burnout #careeradvice

Expedia Group imogen Sep 5, 2020

Some people are just shitty. No way to navigate around that. Accept that as a fact and move on. The faster you learn to identify these patterns and nope out of the situation, the better for you.

HPE patagon Sep 5, 2020

Very true, thanks

IEEE Zapata57 OP Sep 5, 2020

You are absolutely correct. "Yet, at workplace, we may encounter personalities who might be difficult to work with. Or hostile work environment. Question is - how do you tackle it? Is leaving the only option?" - that's what I often ponder about. Whether there was a particularly cunning way I could've gotten back at the manager and others? (One way perhaps would've been team switch but, in my case, things took a bad course practically within 3 weeks of joining itself)

Uber FreeCoupon Sep 5, 2020

Woah! That was some shady shit. This has happened with me and I was ultimately thrown out , but it was in India so racism played no part in it.

Google UWOM24 Sep 6, 2020

Was it the caste?

Uber FreeCoupon Sep 6, 2020

Umm, don't think so. I think my manager just hated me. This caste thing has been blown out of proportion after that Cisco fiasco.

Tesla 🐉⛈ Sep 5, 2020

Would have started looking for a different job as soon as you noticed you weren’t in the circle.

IEEE Zapata57 OP Sep 6, 2020

It was my 2nd job, I was <1 year out of undergrad, and I chalked some of the friction to "new work environment+different country" etc. I did get this job after a bit of a search too (2 months), was on visa, so desperation was blinding. Then again, hindsight is 20/20.

VMware Mr.Dabada Sep 6, 2020

Did you have a concept of skip manager in that company? Or any support system to leave anonymous tips to folks above your manager/CS lead? I wouldn’t expect it because it was a “startup”, but in the presence of such favoritism with nobody to hear you, switching jobs is best! No amount of money can keep you happy if you’re being ignored.

IEEE Zapata57 OP Sep 6, 2020

That "skip" manager was equally worse. This startup is a household name, a Billion dollar firm, so not really a "startup" in the literal sense. What happened here is that these folks were grandfathered in since they joined it in the earlier days and now climbed up the ladder fast in terms of title etc, but leading people does not come this easy. In any other org worth its salt, their unprofessional conduct would be thwarted immediately. No - no support system at all from the HR except for some "anonymous" survey which was not anonymous in any way. Heck, I wanted to take (free) language classes offered by the company and the team/manager didn't permit me for literally zero reason telling there is too much work. They used to occur from 6-7pm, I offered to and tried to come earlier at 8am or stayed after 7pm (no-go if we're talking EU labor laws) but he still blocked me. Asked HR for help and they were like: nah, that's the way it is. I did have a sort of an individual at the same level as my manager (though his friend) from slightly different team who was very nice and adviced me a couple times on how to work on certain tasks, but (un)fortunately, she left quickly after I joined for her MBA at H/S/W. Working under her would have been terrific. But yes, the amount of "group-ism"/"favoritism", and "nepotism" I had witnessed there was absolutely crazy. Although it happened not in the way I had sincerely wished as I suffered plenty during that jobless period, I am still glad I moved on from that toxic environment.

Conduent Mile Sep 6, 2020

It was a bad fit. Move on. There's no point in doing a lot of analysis. Interview for jobs and really interview the person you would be reporting to - make sure you have a sense that you click. I've had jobs like this and jobs where it seemed like everyone liked me.