TLDR: Manager chain refused to fairly compensate me, and when I finally switched teams they opened a req that pays almost double π Current job title is L4 "Business Intelligence Engineer" in SF bay area with following comp plan: Base - 87k Sign on Bonus - 12k 11 RSU - ~37k TC - ~135k My title is BS because my day to day is Frontend JavaScript, with some Python Pandas. My very first project, in the first week of employment, was to create a Frontend Component Module that can be pulled and rendered on any of our web pages. Most of my work is to build complex, single-page web applications for data annotations. The python scripts are to analyze the returned data and assess the quality. I'm really an SDE, or an FEE at least, but I am in this random job family for some reason. According to: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Amazon/salaries/Software-Engineer/SDE-I/San-Francisco-Bay-Area/ Average base is 140k with Median base 135k, exactly my TC. I addressed my manager (new manager from original hiring manager) about this discrepancy and how to fix it. He said we could try to do a role transfer to FEE given I provide evidence to make the switch since it requires L8 approval. Apparently there are 6 dimensions of competency that I must meet with demonstrated work. I created a doc with at least 2 examples for each dimension (with code, documentation on repo, Wikis I've written and live versions) and shot it back to my manager. Manager is more of a statistician/data scientist and since I was one of TWO people (out of 25) who do front end they needed to get outside opinions to assess my work. Months go by and I don't hear a peep. Getting annoyed, I began looking other jobs, both within the company and outside. I fired some "warning shots" via asking my manager to meet with potential new manager about transfer schedule to see if that could get the ball rolling on my FEE transfer. Fearing that they might lose 50% of their frontend employees, my manager's manager (an SDM) reached out attempting to convince me to stay. His exact words, "I cannot promise a guaranteed FEE position, but I can promise you a plan to get you to transfer." I gave him my Document outlining my work and asked that he send it to some of his engineers. In return he asked that I work on a front end project that showcases my abilities. I agreed, but secretly kept looking for other opportunities. I finished the frontend project, CR approved and delivered, as well as continuing my normal day-to-day. A few months go by since I talked with SDM, and no noise or update about my transfer. Turns out, the people who he asked to view my work haven't even looked at my document, and only briefly reviewed my delivered CR code. At this point, 4 months after initial Convo about transfer, there was barely any traction. Luckily, I was many stages through an interview with another team in Austin and was extended an offer with a better comp plan. L4 SDE I New Base: 117k Equity: +1 from original new hire grants of 80k/ next two years TC - ~160k With lower COL and no State Tax. Manager made the announcement today during team meeting, but after the congrats from the team, SDM then announced that there is now an open req for an L5 FEE II !! According to: https://www.levels.fyi/company/Amazon/salaries/Software-Engineer/SDE-II/San-Francisco-Bay-Area/ Average TC is 269K with Median of 248K. So after months of giving me the run-around, dangling the potential transfer over my head, they just decide to hire someone else for double my rate πππ Along with recruiting time, interviewing, onboarding and training. What was the point? π§ #tech #softwareengineer #softwareengineersalary #salary
I think it is neither... most likely you were closing a gap, which require different skill set altogether. While you were operating in that role, everything was okay-ish, but since you have moved on it is a good time to hire an engineer with specialization (more YOE, domain knowledge etc).
Probably. Title is pretty click-baity. I was also the go-to guy for frontend projects cause of my turnaround time, quality, and knowledge of code base. Probably better they find a competent employee after me
Kudos for pushing for your interests.
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Sounds like you should've left before delivering that project, seems like they extracted FEE work out of you for BIE pay
They did that for two years lol. First job out of Uni, and didn't have rent cause of Covid so I was okay with it.
Yeah so it seems like they didn't want to spend the effort converting you to an FEE and you stayed too long so they just kept the status quo. Sometimes managers do act in your best interest, sometimes they don't. Sounds like they didn't here. I don't know if I'd call it malicious intent, it might just be laziness.