Goddamn. Venting more than anything, but trying to hire L5/L6 DS’s for my team in a niche where financial industry experience is a major plus, but the banking candidates (MS, Citi, JP, etc) can’t seem to pass basic python/sql tech screens worth a damn. Why is this so difficult? Full disclosure: I came from banking a few roles back, and the tech screens were easy with just a basic amount of prep. I had high hopes but y’all keep failing before even hitting on-site. TC: 320
Hi my friend, do you have any SDE role opening, i have the good experience for finance like order/transaction management.
Hi, I'm actively interviewing, I have Fintech experience and I passed square's phone screen last year. Can I DM you?
I'm assuming these are entry level roles? Yeah not a fan of SQL. Can't chatgpt do all that already? 😒
Nah. Not entry. L5/L6 are considered mid to senior level think VP with few years of experience at a bank. L6 could arguably be a fresh SVP
Not many senior VP in ML orgs write SQL queries tbh (maybe DS do) unless you really want to. Senior VPs work on reviewing results, models, and python code. Why would you ask them to write SQL queries? That said, my manager and most of the team can write python code but if you're gonna ask a nasty SQL query, I won't be interested in the role either
Was in banking. Banking is not anything remotely close to tech. Politics and communication are much more valued. Also everything is done in spreadsheets or decades old tech. Bar is super low.
I mean some of that is true although I'd say I've been pretty happy so far with my current employer. If you just need SQL and python you're not interested in Data science. Data scientist solve problems, test their intuition their modeling and analytical skills.
So true
When I worked at Affirm, there were a couple of engineers and data scientists who came from banking and were excellent swe’s. Of course, there is a selection bias because these people had to pass the coding screen.
Why not just ignore the finance-background candidates and pick from the variety box of random SWE/DS? It's not like finance is complex subject matter, aside from the weird stuff. I'm not from finance, but my colleagues paint a universally Stone Age picture of the industry, just like healthcare of government. Maybe it's easier to teach a decent dev whatever subject matter than a finance guy how to do common table expressions or FizzBuzz.
Doing that as well and the mixed bag group is passing the initial screens at least. But was hoping to not have that initial training ramp up, but it’s looking like that’s going to be the way of life unless we can poach from another Fintech. Also, being someone who started out in banking, I felt like I had a bit of an uphill battle getting into tech because of biases against banking people. I wanted to pay it forward… but the banking people have all been doing abysmally, even when their resumes seemed impressive.
Yeah agree that finance is pretty easy compared with general tech knowledge. Unless you’re coding quant models and doing serious stochastic calculus, I think you can get by with a basic time-value of money exponential growth equation.
Care to share examples?
What is it that those candidates from banking are failing at?
Can I dm you as well?
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Can I DM you? I have the right experience
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