Got accepted to Google, L5. Looking for best teams to work in, worst teams to avoid. Am personally interested in Cloud, hearing mixed opinions. Any suggestions are highly appreciated.
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What do you value/consider a best team?
Strong technical skills to match strong technical challenges, a manager that shields the team from crap and politics.
Fred’s team is pretty good. Avoid Bob’s team though
Yup, recruiter approval
oh I like that, all recruiters can approve
To clarify.. recruiter vs HC approval are different things. You might’ve been moved to Team match first cuz you’re close but just want to fore warn you rejection still possible. (Source: got rejected after team match)
Not so fast my friend. Wait for HC approval , team match and VP approval. It takes couple of years before you can be so selective for teams.
That's besides the point, though. Assuming I can at least influence my future team choice, I'll try doing that. If I won't be able to, that's all right, but I'd prefer to not miss the opportunity.
They’re L5. I think they’ve earned the right to pursue the best team match they can.
It depends on location. Cloud is fine, I would personally avoid highly specific internal tools like Corp Eng or Core Dev
Location = Sunnyvale / Mountain view
Why avoid internal tools? Looks unfavourable at review time?
Org level, each org has good or bad teams. Try to find the one matches your background and interests. For really hot team, they are picky and can easily find internal candidates, so they rarely hires externally.
Can you give examples of what you consider hot teams?
YOE?
14 years, led a team of 30 at some point before moving back to development
And that’s still L5?! Do you feel you got downleveled?
Cloud has a lot of messes to clean up. If you don't mind that, it's a chance to demonstrate impact, which is something they're obsessed with at Google.
Can you please give more details on messes?
They prioritized features over reliability for a good while, and now reliability has to catch up.
Congrats. Cloud is great, but no coasting there. Everything is new so lots of growth potential. The cloud naysayers often don't work in cloud. Payments - avoid like the plague.
Just asking - what's the problem with payments ?
+1 As somebody working on payments in Amazon, I'll recommend the same. Avoid payments.
Avoid CorpEng, there are a few good teams in here but none are hiring.
What are the issues with corpeng?
TC
No idea yet, will be negotiated after teams match
Pick team with highest TC