Tech IndustryNov 25, 2022
MathWorksnotsofine

Break the Tipping system

15%, 20%, 25% tipping is getting out of hand. I see people defend it saying servers/waiters are paid less than min wage. But that is not true. Here is what I have gathered from various sources - 1. Restaurants are legally required to pay servers the difference between min wage and (direct pay + tips) if the tips don't already cover min wage. So, every server / tipped-employee makes atleast the minimum wage. Source: https://webapps.dol.gov/elaws/faq/esa/flsa/002.htm 2. Experiences shared by waiters, servers on YouTube about how much money they make indicate them making about $1000/week working less than 30 hours a week. eg. https://youtu.be/zVIIdT-IFXg 3. Comments on such videos from experienced people: "most servers make 15-20/hr from my experience. The better serving jobs are 20-30/hr. I can not speak for the fine dining scene, but this video seems to be a good example." "I live in Dallas, work 5 days a week at a bar.. and a bad week for me is $1000. It’s definitely not hard! You just can’t work at shitty restaurants. You should definitely always be averaging at $30-$40 if you’re a good server" "Tipping is BS... You probably make more than the people actually doing the hard work and you don't have to wait 2 weeks to see your money. I've got more than a handful of years in restaurant experience. I can confidently say most people that claim servers don't make enough are lazy, party all the time and have no clue what's actually going on around them. They can make a dishwashers 30+ hour paycheck in two 5 hour shifts on a weekend and have the audacity to cry about it in front of them without realizing it." -- The fact that this is not well-known shows that it is a conspiracy by the restaurant industry to make the customers pay more. The servers make enough, and definitely make min wage atleast, so don't feel guilty next time about tipping small. Maybe it is time to spread awareness and boycott percentage tipping to break this conspiracy. TC: 🥜🥜 Yoe: 6 #restaurants #tipping #change

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Amazon liger89 Nov 25, 2022

Tipping is the biggest scam in the US , in line with insurance and healthcare

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UHdH18 Nov 25, 2022

100%. Spreading like herpes to other parts of the world too!

Amazon PIP Lord 🤴 Nov 25, 2022

Never tipped in my entire life for anything

Apple jitsu Nov 25, 2022

What do you do when you eat out?

Amazon PIP Lord 🤴 Nov 25, 2022

I put "thank you" in the tip box!

WarnerMedia DaLead Nov 25, 2022

1) Restaurants don't do it and it doesn't matter what the law says. I think you got a point, but in the meantime millions of service industry workers rely on your tip to supplement their wage.

Bloomberg RedRomeo28 Nov 25, 2022

It's called find another job. The labor supply for restaurant workers outstrip it's demand, which is why owner can pay peanut while still have worker. If more existing labor supply find another better job, the remaining workers will have more bargain power in getting higher wage

WarnerMedia DaLead Nov 25, 2022

Your ideals don't put food on the table.

Microsoft ठोक देंगे Nov 25, 2022

Totally agree

Apple jitsu Nov 25, 2022

Can’t agree more

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meeshhy Nov 25, 2022

Spoken like a true 200k+ TC republican 😂 have you ever actually worked in the industry or intimately known someone who has? I worked fine dining during undergrad, and yes you can definitely make good money! Don’t get me wrong. But take into account that these people don’t get PTO, typically don’t get good health insurance nor 401k matching. I have weeks where I work 30 hours, and I know many here do (as well as many work twice that). Most of the people I worked with in the restaurant industry had undergrad degrees, some with master’s, but couldn’t figure out how to make it in the white collar world, ie most are educated. I feel like 2 years of service industry should be required of all Americans, just to show people what it’s like on the other side. Seeing how people react to a key lime pie they insist should be green, hitting on you, while tipping you $20 on a $600 meal is insulting. I agree servers should be paid more than $2.13/hr (they are paid higher in many states but not most), but unless we overhaul the laws, it is what it is. While restaurants will pay the difference between $2.13 and minimum wage, if a server makes under $7.25/hr with tips, no one can live off $7.25/hr. I know I’m biased, but I just consider it paying it forward to tip well-ish. I know I do well and they make maybe 50k with no health insurance, PTO, nor 401k. If someone does a bad job though, you don’t need to tip well. But if they’re trying, and you know it could make the difference in them being able to buy themselves one nice thing, then call me a sucker. But I’ll do it. As someone who never erred on the kinder side growing up (esp to waitstaff), I’ve realized it never hurts to be a little nicer to people who are probably doing worse than you. I even tipped my white glove furniture delivery people today. I just think - what difference will $20-$30 make to me compared to them? Will it honestly hurt my finances or will it maybe help someone else who’s trying to improve their life? Idk, that’s just my biased opinion. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Apple jitsu Nov 25, 2022

Being nice should be a choice, not an obligation.

MathWorks notsofine OP Nov 25, 2022

I agree with having the attitude of being nice and helping people, but if the reason for giving money to people is "because they are doing worse than you", then isn't it unfair to give a huge chunk to one server based on % of my check? That money could be better utilized in other donations & charity work who are also equally deserving if not more than the waiters who make more than 80% of the people in the world.

Uber woowoo30!& Nov 25, 2022

What pisses me off is the creep in the “appropriate” amount. 20 years ago it was 10% for mediocre service, 18% for great service. Now it’s 20% base tip and 25-30% for great service. Nah…

Amazon gYkG15 Nov 25, 2022

This. Inflation is not even an argument because prices of menu items went up accordingly and the tip is a percentage of the total bill. I remember the initial justification being COVID, that these people are taking risks, essential workers (which I find highly debatable btw - restaurants are a luxury), but then COVID went away and this expectation of >20% tipping for good service conveniently didn't.

Marvell ETX Nov 25, 2022

I’ve seen too many servers cry when they get stiffed by a table of let’s say “foreigners”. The servers lose money. The IRS assumes a tip of 10% of the bill as income. And servers pay out the restaurant staff a % of the bill. So they waited on a table for an ~hour and lost money doing it.

FBI Toymaker Nov 25, 2022

In one simple statement: Do the servers work for you? No? Then why are you writing them their paychecks. Hold employers accountable.

Amazon PIP Lord 🤴 Nov 25, 2022

if FBI gives me permission to not tip, this is all I need!

FBI Toymaker Nov 25, 2022

The best tip you could leave a good server is your number with a job referral to a real career, not what's supposed to be a highschool/college temp job.

Chainlink Labs crypto 🚀🚀 Nov 25, 2022

I swear to god default tip rates have gone from like 10% in 2011 to 28% (!!) in some places now. Thats why I don't eat out anymore unless I'm in europe. No tip + awesome food