CBSi just offered me 78k in San Francisco, what do I say?

Jan 21 33 Comments

It’s an associate product manager role. No sign on bonus, no stocks, no yearly bonus, 3% pay increase annually. I’ve tried negotiating with my recruiter but she won’t budge.

I really want to move into product but is it just me or is that offer really bad? I have 6 months of experience as a PM rotator at a big 4, and am 2 years out of school for context.

I’m currently in the very early process of talking to Lyft, Pinterest, and Shopkick for their open PM roles. My contract at google expires in 2 months so I don't want to let any opportunities go, but I think I just need confirmation from this community that the offer is actually that bad.

Any advice would be great, thank you!

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TOP 33 Comments
  • Say no. Simple. You wont be able to survive in SF with that salary.
    Jan 21 5
    • Microsoft lather
      So wrong - there are many surviving on 12$ an hour - don’t make generalizations on survival - and saying , hey my friend gets 200k give me that also doesn’t make sense. There are many who would kill to take the 75k job (those who are getting 30k).
      Jan 21
    • Microsoft freedom!
      Exactly, be grateful for what you get today.
      Jan 21
  • eBay Rbhjl2
    I’m usually all for gaining experience, but this is one of the worst offers I’ve ever seen. And it speaks volumes that the recruiter won’t budge. It would be a different situation if there was a bonus on top of the base. Walk away unless you are in dire need.
    Jan 21 1
    • Google / Ops IllIl
      OP
      Thank you for reading through the post and commenting. Looking forward to what everyone else has to say.
      Jan 21
  • Google muDb40
    Sounds like your contract is ending so why not? Treat it like an educational experience (ie MBA) that you’re getting paid for, and throw your hat in the Fang PM ring in a couple years!
    Jan 21 1
    • Google / Ops IllIl
      OP
      Thanks for the advice! Looking forward to what everyone else has to say.
      Jan 21
  • Walmart / Eng XsEg37
    Yeah, it's pretty bad. Could make sense if that was a startup and you were getting a sizeable equity with it...
    Jan 21 5
    • Walmart / Eng XsEg37
      Sure, if you want a referral for some position in bay, I can do that too
      Jan 21
    • Google / Ops IllIl
      OP
      Messaged!
      Jan 21
  • Uber / Eng fgyewnxu5
    You'll be labeled as "the 76k guy working at some shitty company" by future recruiters. Don't do it. Try something like Amazon. They have low bar but better recognition
    Jan 21 4
  • Morgan Stanley QWERTYhjk
    What’s your current TC at Google? How big of a pay cut are you taking to get this miniMBA?
    Jan 21 3
    • Morgan Stanley QWERTYhjk
      Not worth taking a pay cut. Especially coming from google and moving to a lower tier company. Have you tried getting into product at google? Internal move could be possible if you network with the right people
      Jan 21
    • Google / Ops IllIl
      OP
      Thanks for the advice!
      Jan 21
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    • Google / Ops IllIl
      OP
      Thank you soooooo much for this. It’s really what I need right now. Thank you for sharing your story and for your valuable insight. I’ll be declining the offer.
      Jan 22
  • Expedia Group sight2020
    Low for SF area, really for any tech job, but if you are young, have little in the way of financial obligations, and think it's a good learning experience.....
    Jan 21 1
    • Google / Ops IllIl
      OP
      Thank you for offering your perspective!
      Jan 21
  • Facebook public2
    At least you will qualify for low income housing while you learn?
    Jan 21 0
  • New HXwF46
    Ask if they would rent you a cardboard box out behind the building for 50% of base. Make it part of the deal.
    Jan 28 0

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