New grad here. Did my undergrad and Master's in Computer Science. Need to decide between two offers: 1. Quantitative Analytics Specialist at Wells Fargo - TC: $125k + $12k relocation + yearly bonus (~20%) (Charlotte, NC) 2. Associate Software Engineer at IBM (Consulting/GBS) - TC: $110k + $10k sign-on (NYC) I know there's nothing positive to talk about IBM GBS, but that's the only SWE offer I have at the moment. Taking COL into consideration, WF pay is miles ahead of IBM, but then it's finance as opposed to "tech". My question is, if I take the Quant role at WF, would it deter/reduce my chances of eventually transitioning into SWE (hopefully at FAANG) and getting interviews? Is it harder to transition from Quant/DS to FAANG SWE roles? Or should I go through the horrors of IBM just because it would be better at opening doors to FAANG? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! #quant #wellsfargo #finance #career #newgrad #tech #ibm #ibmgbs #tc
If you're really set on faang but don't have the chops for it yet, better stay in finance and move your way there. Work towards a quant dev role, then move to a faang once you get the experience. Though finance has arguably better pay/wlb/type of work anyway š
Better wlb? Lmao
Your offer is not āquantā, that term at least on Blind refers to quantitative research or trading at somewhere like Two Sigma, Citadel, or Jane Street. Your WF position is a financial analyst. Those are pretty different career paths. It wonāt be that easy to move to FAANG from WF. If your long term goal is SWE, IBM is the better move. Did you try Microsoft? Our interviews arenāt that hard.
The work is going to be pure applied ML/DL/NLP, geared towards research and publications. Seems more like an MLE role. Tried Microsoft several times, applied to all new grad SWE/DS roles, got rejects even with a referral. Not sure why :/
Seen the term quantitative analytics specialist used to describe what essentially were junior quant positions. Though definitely details of the role matter.
I would actively avoid having Wells Fargo on my resume but that's me
Any particular reason(s)?
Go for ibm but ask for more money. Tell them you have a higher offer from Wells Fargo. In fact if you say you are considering to go to Wells Fargo because of the higher offer, they will probably increase their own offer . If they refuse to budge, that in itself is a red flag And as someone who is an ex-ibmer, not everything ibm is bad. Just that faang is way better
I'd asked for more money and even told them I've got a much higher paying offer (just didn't mention that it's from Wells Fargo). Recruiter outright said no, stating that the offer is not negotiable. I believe you weren't in GBS, which is why your opinion about IBM seems positive?
I thought ibm is better because it is in nyc where you are closer to other opportunities. The recruiters at ibm stink when it comes to negotiation. Your experience reminded me of mine at the time of negotiation. Wells Fargo is way more generous when it comes to comp.