I would like to try and get an internship at Uber Amsterdam. Both the city and the company seem amazing! Next year or later of course.. I’ve seen here on Blind some stuff like: FB has much faster promos than for example Google. What about Uber Europe? Assuming the internship at Uber, what is the starting comp (with masters), and how fast comes the next promotion and so on? Is there room to grow technically and constantly improve skills? I would appreciate all Uber Amsterdam related comments as well :)
If you're into NL immigration is easy I think. Where you coming from?
Assuming we start hiring again Uber in Amsterdam is a great place for career progression. TC for new grads with no industry experience is around EUR 85-90K (this is on par or higher for how much you’d get in Amsterdam as a senior at many places). It also means it’s extremely competitive to get in as a new grad, it’s on par with Google & FB. With the 30% ruling this is pretty great. Usually people get promoted to Eng2 within 1.5-2 years and then to Sr in another 2. Not a rule of thumb, but a good average. There’s tons of mentorship - lots of seniors and a culture of strong mentoring - and the work is quite hands-on at scale. Note that other companies are not as great: see the comment from Microsoft. Also Booking.com is a large employer who pay decent but the engineering culture is pretty bad (lots of people come over to Uber after they realize they’re not growing as developers there)
Thanks this is helpful
If the comment from Uber is true then that's really good with 30% ruling. If you get a good rent outside Amsterdam (which you easily could and I'd advise that) you could commute to work. It's pretty common over there. So then, yes assuming all of the above, then situation changes. I told you what I believe from 5 years living there (the Hague) what's NL like on average. Still, check out cost of living and salary calculator to see exactly what you get. PS: don't take 30% ruling for granted. Companies can try to get it from you, but ultimately the government decides if you get it or not and if they say no there's nothing a company can do.
On the flip side you will be stuck here, no other company can come close this compensation and moving out of NL would be the only way out.
Yeah this is a big downside.
I've lived for 5 years in the Netherlands. If you hate having a decent TC as well as being promoted once in a blue moon or not at all as well as salary increases being so insignificant due to taxes, then sure go for it. I think Amsterdam is hugely overrated. Too crowded and the rents are horribly overpriced. Do some research. Will you benefit from 30% ruling? Without that I'd say probably not worth going over there
How's the immigration path to permanent residency there ? A family member is moving close there and I'd probably go in 3 year