Look at the big 5 tech companies. Google and Microsoft treat their employees well. Their employees feel secure, support their colleagues, and build out software for the long term. Google and Microsoft are doing really well. Amazon runs through employees like commodities. Toxic managers backstab reports, create hunger games, and hire to fire to meet URA target. Employees feel insecure, backstab colleagues for survival, build software to fulfill short term self-interest, and change teams or leave company when things backfire.. Facebook and Netflix are something in between. They seem to be losing out to their competitors too. Cannot comment about apple, because I don't know anyone there. Do you agree that companies that treat employees better would do better in the long run? Companies that don't may win the dash but lose the marathon. YOE 10 TC 300k
I think Netflix is in a league of its own.
Is it a better league or a worse one?
You are reading too much into memes. Engineers are just one component of the company. Strategy, product market fit and external factors are way more important on determining long term success
Correct. More Googlers complaining about less innovation at workplace. Look at their failed clones - Google plus, infinite number of chat applications
It’s called R&D. Not all products will make it through. YouTube Premium was launched as an R&D project before commercial rollout which was widely successful.
Heard Microsoft Azure and Google Cloud are like hunger games though cause they hired a lot of former Amazon SDMs. Source: Blind
It’s not really the low level SDMs that are responsible for that. It’s the Amazon execs they hired to run the organization. They were the ones that implemented the arbitrary URA shit
So Is Microsoft not immune to URA quota or boot on the neck toxicity?
Actually they are doing good, that's why treat the employees well, and not the other way around.
Incorrect. Amazon was also doing good, at least before 2021. It grew rapidly but still decided to treat employees like shit, which led to mass attrition.
Amazon is exception to everything.
You specifically called out the URA target. So I’m going with that For a company the size of Amazon, yeah it’s a terrible business practice that is completely arbitrary and will end up screwing the company in the long run For younger companies / startups? It depends.
It will also screw the customers who have to come to depend on AWS
URA forces managers to think hard and trim the excess people. Do you think that makes room for new people, perhaps better ones?
I thought FB treated their employees well. Look what happened 😂
I heard the opposite. FB pays well, but that's it. In fact, amazon pays more than FB now.
By treating well I meant perks, benefits, swag, good updated latest mac devices, good refreshers, high TC, good internal mobility, easy-to-show impact kinda work, etc. Amazon pays more these days but FB’s everything looks good. At least from outside. IDK what’s like inside. Stock is down 22% after earnings lol
Idk if treating your employees better means lowballing the shit out of them, because thats been my and my friends experiences at both G and MS
It's actually interesting that FB and amazon pay top of the market, but their employees feel worse than g and m's.
I think listening to blind you might get a biased view since people are generally posting about frusrations. I for one have little negative bias towards amzn. If they paid top of market Id move there.
I love how people think they've got it all figured out by rationalizing stock performance of the most recent quarter 😂 When I left Amazon 5 years ago and watched the stock price soar afterwards, while Google grew much more slowly, I certainly did not feel this way. We have no idea if Amazon will turn it around next year; what will your philosophy be then?
With this kind of attrition and toxicity, I don't think amazon will turn around without a big change inside out. Wait for tomorrow's earnings call 😂 I think it'll be nasty.
My bet : Amazon stock you 5 percent tomorrow
Microsoft employees: “please sir, can I have some more?” Satya: “here’s 10k RSU over 5 years and buy your own food”
Lol
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