Tech IndustrySep 12, 2022
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Companies with even worse WLB than Zoom USA teams?

Hi, zoom employee here. I have been at the company for almost 2 years and have been expected to regularly take 630-7 AM and 10-1030 PM meetings 4 days a week. We regularly work with overseas engineering teams. our engineering team is based in China and more engineering jobs are going to India this year and the culture is making a turn for even worse. My engineering team is expected to regularly take meetings with overseas teams at these odd hours. Im no stranger to long hours and owning my work, but mandatory meetings early morning and late night and not being empowered with a choice to reschedule the meeting on our terms is taking a toll on me and my team. I have worked hard with my manager and done my best to make it work, but my manager and his boss are being crushed as well and its been characterized as “its tough for me too” People joke about TikTok and Bytedance being 996 Chinese owned companies but knowing folks from these companies, Zoom’s mandatory meeting hours and culture are arguably worse. I had no clue before I joined and I don’t think I asked the right questions to dig deep and find these issues. The decision to keep engineering jobs in China and India is from the executives and there isnt much I can do. I am looking to make a change and currently exploring FAANG as well as several other tech companies. Any teams or companies with possibly worse culture that I should avoid? TL;DR: if youre looking to join Zoom as a top talent, its not worth it. You will be milked. Look elsewhere TC: 340k 12 YOE #tech #zoom #hours #wlb #meta #amazon #microsoft #google #netflix #apple

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Indeed ehrmentrau Sep 12, 2022

DM for Indeed referral! Great WLB.

Amazon go/zucc Sep 12, 2022

Damn seems like zoom is 996, Chinese founder after all. Anywhere else is probably better. Among FAANG teams I've been on Meta was worst, Amazon and Google about same, YMMV but blind is very negative about 🍌 for some reason

Amazon aws Ninja1 Sep 12, 2022

Amazon has been amazing to me and my org has mostly happy folks. We aren’t SDEs though.

Hubspot mckaiqo Sep 12, 2022

What does 996 mean?

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bhGR46 Sep 12, 2022

Amazon is trash

Nomura blind75er Sep 12, 2022

I’m expecting a ZP2 offer soon and this is scaring me. Is 180 to 250 tc worth the move? Am I grunted this terrible wlb or could I get lucky with a different team? Lol

Twilio jaded 🦉 Sep 13, 2022

I would use it as a stepping stone for jobs in the future if the zoom name is more recognizable than others on your resume.

Nomura blind75er Sep 13, 2022

Thanks for the advice!

Zoom purplechee Sep 14, 2022

I don't disagree with anything you've posted. I hate this shit. I've been lied to.

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RandommGuy Sep 20, 2022

@OP may I know what team are you part of? Also your timezone?