Yes, it’s going to pass. Consulting companies who focus on only hiring h1b people will get screwed.
Pretty sure this billed a long time ago and will never be voted on. Not sure why blind is obsessed with it. Don't get your hopes up friend. Immigration needs reform but this doesn't seem like it. Sorry.
Why will it never be voted on? Cant it make it past UC?
Once a bill is squashed it is generally never voted on. It could come back in an alternative form or bill but thought this one was tables a long while back?
I am no immigration expert. Just like there are people lobbying for the bill, there have been increasing amount of people against this bill. From what I can tell, legal immigration is a low priority for this country. I am not going to get into whether this bill is good or bad. I personally dont know how 0 senators will not object to bringing 800K EADS to the labor market. Regardless, lets say it makes it past the senate, the house needs to also act on it. Once the house acts on it, the president also needs to sign in. This bill imo has made progress but with so many amendments, impeachment drama and election year who knows what all will happen.
Instead of struggling this dead bill, we should just support RELIEF which makes everyone happy
More fud. Those folks are already in the labor market. Giving them EAD doesn't change a thing other than give them labor mobility and reduce wage depression. The only folks who are upset by this are consultant companies, who hold the employees hostage with h1s. Honest companies who play by the rules and don't use immigration as employee retention tool won't care about these EADs. @linkedin: mohaha, you were the same person who was upset about h1 abuse. How are you okay with relief act that does nothing to fix abuse? Can u at least be principled in your opposition? Like if you are going to shout abuse at the top of lungs, may be just be honest about fixing it. On a side note, the senator who introduced relief bill thinks it's dead. He said this on the senate floor that the time is not right for relief so he will go with these amendments. Who are we hoodwinking by trying to support a bill that it's biggest champion doesn't believe will pass? PS: do you need proof of him saying the time is not ripe to pass Relief?
The original bill was a very simple bill with a few pages and its goal was to increase the country caps for FB green cards from 7% to 15% and remove the country caps for EB green cards completely. Because of its simplicity that bill got so many votes at the house. However, that simple bill couldn’t get 60 cosponsor senators in almost 10 months with 5 UC attempts which means it’s not a very popular bill at the senate (for immigration bills you need at least 60 cosponsors to take your bill on the floor). But even though it wasn’t popular, it was very loud because of its lobbyists. Now the new bill is 31 pages and it’s a very complicated bill that took immigration lawyers a few days to just understand it also this bill lost one its lobbyists, ICCs, which means it’s even weaker than before. Now you tell me, do you think it will pass the senate?
The original bill was a con trick. It tried to present Indian backlog as a natural phenomenon of any big country. Never ever mentioned H1 abuse anywhere. Never ever mentioned that China has bigger population but 7x less backlogged people. Always pretended that every backlogged person is “high skilled” and “contributes a lot of taxes”. Durbin is a hero for putting H1 amendment in. Now any discussion of that bill will skip all that manipulation fluff and get straight to the point: ICCs.
As a Chinese immigrant, I find this comparison with China funny because it is so ignorant. In 2011, I worked in the US as an intern for the first time and I was dismayed to learn that I was going to face a 7 year wait time if I wanted to apply for a green card after I graduated. Today, the waiting time is only 4 years, but it's still very frustrating. I believe that the vast majority of the Chinese people in the queue today are high skilled. I also believe that the vast majority were high skilled in 2011. Why was the backlog longer in 2011 than it is today? Because in 2011, Chinese people did not want to stay in China as much as they do today. I absolutely condemn these attempts to portray us as the "good" immigrants, the ones who don't abuse the system, as a rhetorical device to denigrate Indian immigrants. A country as large as India will have millions of high-skilled individuals, just like China. And for economic and political reasons they have little control over, those high-skilled individuals don't want to stay in India. So that leads to the present situation. At least the nativists who want to force the Indians to stay in their country to try to fix it have some coherence to their arguments, unlike you morons.
Remember few weeks ago when Durbin lifted his block in S386, the IV posted an angry post about it on Facebook? Strange isn’t it, all they ever wanted is for Durbin to lift the block, but when he finally did it, they had such a meltdown. That is because of that new H1 clause he added while lifting the block. That law was most likely created and lobbied by ICCs themselves. We all know how “donations” to senators work. Now Durbin made that bill work right against its creators. Beautiful.
Agree and happy about it
a74YT, are you dumb or acting like dumb? There are Grassley protections in the original version of the bill which will protect against H1B frauds. With latest Durbin's amendments, all the backlogged Indians will also benefit. Without his amendments, I would still have to wait another 4 years to get my GC. With Durbin's amendments, I will get immediately EAD. Durbin's amendments are not against its creators in terms of 50:50 rule. Even IV core people welcomed Durbin's changes. Please don't bluff.
@apple: IV issued a bulletin criticizing Durbin after the his amendments were put in. They did not welcome it with open arms. Lots of core IV members are ICC staffers, you realize that 50:50 will impact H1b extensions too ?? Which means lots of Indians will have to go back.
Well, if they get their EADs then I dont think they will go back.
To get extensions beyond 6 years initial term on H1-B you would need an approved / pending GC petition ie an approved / pending I140 application. With 50/50 in place your employer can’t sponsor a GC so the extension beyond6 years is not possible. If someone wanted to get a sponsor he/she would have to find a non-50/50 employer well before 6 years initial H1-B expires. 50/50 employers cannot sponsor a new I140 unless there use of H1 and L1 goes down 50/50.
I am seeing so many conflicting info about EAD on this forum so I would like to highlight a few things. I apologize in advance for deflecting from the OQ. After reading the amendments carefully, this is what I understood about EAD: 1) There is **no provision** for a "new I140 EAD", rather early I485 filing and the Terms and Conditions of I485 has to adhere the INA and AC21. I485 comes with EAD and Travel Document. 2) The EAD does not give unrestricted access to the job market, rather it's confined within AC21 protections i.e. the new (job) role must be Same or Similar 3) Adjustment of Status (I485) gives the Advance Parole that means one can travel out of country and reenter without a valid Visa on his/her foreign passport. Currently if H1-B Visa is expired, one need to get a new Visa before he/she can reenter USA. Downside? - using Advcance Parole, upon entry, the worker becomes a Parolee and loses H1-B status and automatically becomes employed on EAD. Under AC21 protection, on EAD, a person can only change job without requiring a new I140, if I485 has been pending for at least 6 months. Againg for a successful GC processing, I485 must have a bonafide-job-offer in Same or Similar role. A Software Engineer I140, can not get GC for bonafide-job-offer of a Gracery Store CEO. IMO, EAD does not create extra burden on the job market, rather adds value to the employees who are risk takers. Once someone transfers status from H1-B to Parolee, that person loses H1-B protections (there are a few benefits over I485 EAD - yes that's the reasong Attorneys suggest to keep renewing H1-B until GC is hand). Well on EAD you can do multiple jobs, but the bonafide-job-offer required to maintain EAD must be in Same or Similar role with Terms and Conditions of job equivalent to the US Citizens and Permanent Residents in that Labor Market. Those who have been waiting for a decade, they also have another issue of H1-B visa renewals at US Embassies for Travel. In India, it's usually 3 months of wait time, and then if you are stuck in Administrative Processing, especially from certain ethinicity, it's adds furhter Travel uncertaincies. If there was an emergency, only God can help those folks to get back to USA on time... Now, getting to the original question: I think Yes, it may not be the same language, but such a bill will pass someday. Things move when people talk, and this has been a discussion for a decade. This bill was introduced in Congress for many times, passed twice in the House (without any H1-B provisions), it's just for Senate to take an action. 50/50 rule does complecate this bill, but is a very good amendment for the job market. We all know how corporations try to lower the bottomline and show more profits every quarter whether it was caused by a derivative abuse. My request: Indentured slavery caused by backlog must come to an end. It's not caused by the individual stuck in the backlog, but the market's greed itself. Those who are opposing the bill, I urge you to re-think. I presume, you are a Citizen or a Green Card holder, or in the waitline with better chance of getting GC in next few months. I understand you may be trying to protect future immigrants from your birth country or just don't want any new immigrant, but folks who are stuck in the backlog should be treated better than illegal immigrants. This bill does not put the existing ROW applicants behind Indians in anyways. All current applicants will get their GC on time as they would without changes. If you still blame on the individuals, let me ask you to re-think about how much did you know about your first employer when you joined and what if you were to get stuck with the same employer for next decades.
"IMO, EAD does not create extra burden on the job market, rather adds value to the employees who are risk takers." I disagree here. You are thinking from foreign worker point of view but think from local American point of view. There are more people I have to compete with, some companies deny H1B sponsorship straight up but now there are more people I have to compete with which hurts me.
First those people in backlog are already here on a permanent job offer and are no longer a temporary worker- already allowed under existing INA/AC21. Second there is an annual cap on H1-B, so I am not sure what makes you think of more people to compete with. S386 is not asking about any extra work force than already allowed today.
The most recent thread on s386 where someone was claiming to reject those candidates against bill got flagged on blind.
Another thread that was asking for how to take action against s386 got flagged as well.
I hope this bill doesn't pass!
Don't hope, take action if you care. Just posted something
No, latest news mentions Senator Lee decided not to put it forward for UC. Not sure what happens next
Where did you read that?
On am22. Try searching for S386 ?