Has anyone contested the beginnings of a PIP? Manager sent an email with a few high level bullets (no concrete examples) of gaps. My response warranted another response back without concrete examples - some anecdotes were present based on hear-say. One example was present around what the manager was expecting but did not receive - however, the expectation was not articulated to me. Unclear where to go from here other than responding the email again. Should I involve HR? How have you seen this work out, with positive outcomes? Any pitfalls to avoid? Any help here would be super appreciated. TC tax: 320K
Watch for them to change your job description on you in stealth mode lol
You have to assume manager has made this call with higher ups. It’s really hard to win that battle. Sorry dude
Sorry buddy but there is no win possible. Delay pip and Prep for interview . Good luck 👍
HR knows about your pip, you are done
It’s not a formal PIP. It’s an email thread that could lead to a formal one (I.e. there’s no plan with dates yet). Does that still count?
This 👆Manger came to you with PIP after discussing this with seniors and HR and planning on creating a paper trail
Are you in a protected class? Do you feel you are being fired because of your race or age or something?
No, but I’m the youngest manager in the org. Younger than the people I manage as well
If you can prove age discrimination then do so. But you need to accept that at most companies a PIP is a formality to justify a decision that’s already been made.
Play along nicely while starting to search jobs and interview. You are probably already “being coached”, which is the phase where they create a paper trail that then justifies the formal PIP. The good news is that they have to go through all the motions so as long as you put up a positive facade you’ll have at least 6-8 weeks total before they let you go. Find a new job and resign before then.
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Okay so your next step is to start preparing for interviews
Noted, but I don’t think I’ve done anything super wrong.
What I’m trying to say is that there’s no future left for you at this company. Once pip comes into conversation you need to start looking elsewhere