Tech IndustryDec 22, 2022
Newbaltland

Lyft is Toast

Here’s Lyft’s assets - liabilities in billions as reported in their Form 10Q for the third quarter of each year: 2019: 5.7 - 2.7 = $3.0b 2020: 5.0 - 3.0 = $2.0b 2021: 4.8 - 3.3 = $1.5b 2022: 4.6 - 3.8 = $0.8b At their current burn rate, they have about a year remaining. Of course they just had layoffs to slow down the bleeding. Rideshare just had one of their busiest years ever with people going on spending/travel sprees after being stuck inside during COVID. Revenue surged but they have somehow managed to grow their spending even faster. Edit: Lyft is down to $140m in cash on hand from $700m a year ago. #lyft #uber

Amazon guCw24 Dec 22, 2022

They’ll be bought. Doordash should scoop them up. But doubt they have the money.

Bloomberg singletn Dec 22, 2022

No, serves them no purpose to get all this debt

Tesla tratspu Dec 25, 2022

Doordash could buy the assets in a bankruptcy And the debtors will hold some bag But most of all, common stock holders are wiped

Bloomberg singletn Dec 22, 2022

Yep.. same will happen with Uber . They will file bankruptcy and then start afresh with zero debt.

HPE abcd123… Dec 22, 2022

Uber is valued at 50b. What makes you think they will go bankrupt?

Amazon iehbdy2773 Dec 22, 2022

Ubers and Lyfts are getting totally out of hand. In nyc, yellow cabs are finally cheaper than Uber/Lyfts!!

Boeing aeros Dec 22, 2022

They have been for years

RBC shtpostgpt Dec 22, 2022

It's like airbnbs and hotels. Lyft/Uber = airbnb. Taxi = hotel

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blucat Dec 22, 2022

Wrong

Discord mvhydgur Dec 22, 2022

I don’t understand why their cost is so high when they don’t even operate their own fleet lol

RBC shtpostgpt Dec 22, 2022

Very high pay for employees, too many employees/ customer service. Too much overhead

Lyft gubabagaba Dec 23, 2022

Definitely not the employees who get “very high pay”, I can tell you that

Google QVxC28 Dec 22, 2022

That’s because they were incentivizing drivers to take 50 rides with a guaranteed pay of $3,500. I did 50 5-10 minute short rides ( maybe 5 days worth of work) and made $700 and they paid me the difference. No questions asked.

Discord mvhydgur Dec 22, 2022

Is it still possible? Sounds like I should give some rides

Google QVxC28 Dec 22, 2022

I think that promo passed

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Mongolia Dec 22, 2022

You mean appified taxi services really aren’t multi billion dollar businesses?

Adobe SheThicc Dec 22, 2022

Reserving a ride for a later time cost $15 on Uber lol that’s just wild to me. I hope all these companies go to the shitter.

Atlassian jakalql Dec 22, 2022

Not a good outcome for tech.

HPE abcd123… Dec 22, 2022

Food delivery service fee is even more crazy. Uber eats is only useful when high. Otherwise get your own food and pay 50% price.

Cirrus frozenout Dec 22, 2022

Have they made a profit so far?

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baltland OP Dec 22, 2022

Not GAAP profit. They make a profit if they can exclude taxes, stock-based compensation, depreciation, insurance, and other expenses. They made a bunch of new metrics like Contribution, Contribution Margin, and Adjusted EBITDA that are more favorable, but are not generally accepted accounting principles.

Lyft yjzV14 Dec 22, 2022

Is the 10Q the best way to analyze this? They are notoriously shallow from what i have been told. I will be honest I am not the most knowledgable about the forms, but doesn’t the company say they have 1.8 Billion cash on hand vs what you said ? The 10K shows 2.2 billion in February of this year. And googling around estimated between 1.7-2 billion on hand.