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This was me https://www.teamblind.com/post/Disney-vs-Shopify-gD1TRMJk Summary from last post: Blind told me to negotiate my Shopify offer. I did and negotiated offer is 6k more in base than initial offer. Shopify negotiated offer: 141k base, 25k RSUs (75k over 3 years) = 166k Disney 2022 comp: 124k base, 17k cash bonus, 20k RSUs = 161k Shopify Cons: - comp fixed, no annual increases. Really have to count on stock appreciation - rails is niche - stress of being in new role but not a lot more TC - less opportunity to LC in short term because I have to learn new role - Next year in 2023 TC is 2k less compared to Disney if prices for both stay flat Pros: - forever remote - little more TC, a lot more base salary - seems more engineering focused than Disney - global product - new small team, opportunity to grow Disney Cons: - product is mature - recent reorg moved team away from Disney Streaming org - layoffs last year / people leaving - C-suite wants RTO in some capacity asap (I feel like late spring / summer they'll say) Pros: - tech stack - team - wlb - new opportunity to learn data engineering (scala, airflow, spark) - 2023 TC came out ahead by 2k at Disney at current prices for both companies - taking people to the parks (worth at least ~4k) This is my first offer since I starting to look. Got 2 rejections from others. Not sure if I should just take what's in front of me right now, or keep looking. 3 yoe UPDATE ended up listening to blind and tried to have one last negotiation with Shopify. They said that was max. I rejected the offer. #engineering #software #swe #shopify #disney #tc #career
Haha I might be biased but Shopify is the easy choice. It's the chillest easiest company I've ever worked for. Unless Disney is secretly has the best culture on the planet. Take Shopify, if you have questions let me know.
Is there a scope of working with languages other than Rails/PHP in the backend specifically in the EMEA region? Is there any Kotlin/Java/Go scope?
I work in the data org and 100% of my work is in golang. I know people who work in Python and Scala as well. It really depends on your team. Most core teams work in rails. But it's not a hard rule. I've been here for 3+ years and never wrote a line of Ruby.
Not related to your post but I was also interested in applying to shopify in the EMEA region. I know they are heavy on rails but is that the only stack? I mean if it's so big I am assuming there would be more of languages. I am personally a Kotlin/Java fan but I would be also okay working with Go. But thinking about Ruby really worries me about future growth. And fuck PHP, a definite no even if the TC is higher.
From what I’ve learned from people on blind and my interviews. Ruby on Rails is the most predominant framework. React is used in some situations. Someone said that decomposing the monolith into microservices is heresy internally. One person said they use Go. I also have Kotlin/Java background but haven’t heard either mentioned once. My team is adjacent to the Shopify market place and is a new team and said Rails is what I’m using.
Thanks for the info. Are all your numbers in Dollars or Euros? Also have you considered maybe showing interest in working with Go at Shopify rather than Rails
Super late to this but shopify does do yearly salary increases as well as stock refreshers if you’re senior and above
L5 was the offer, so not senior. Thanks I haven’t heard of the yearly salary increases for seniors. I heard that the stock refresher is merit based and that seniors are more likely to get them but still no guarantees.
Salary increases are 🥜
So you stayed with Disney or you just joined Disney? From the inside, it seems absolutely ridiculous to stay with this dinosaur Disney company.
Stayed for the time being. Still doing LC and going to try for others. I felt like I wasn't super excited about Rails with Shopify. And the comp wasn't really enough for me to feel content for staying longer than a year. This was my first offer.
Also got an offer but they seem to have downlevelled me to L5. I was hoping for L6 (6.5 YOE) and are not ready for reinterviewing which I proposed. Any idea about their L6 pay? As I believe they were updated recently.
What was your offer? Don’t take L5. Flat out reject.
I haven’t received an offer yet but I know the ranges for L5 on a broad level. Why would you say rejecting L5?
How did this work for you OP?
I think Shopify would be the move in the meanwhile IMO. $2k hit seems alright for the Shopify name on resume especially if planning to jump again. Side note any chance for a Disney referral? They ghosted me after interviewing as a college grad. Been a chip on my shoulder ever since.