Company has layoffs - “management restructuring”. Lays off 10% of all software engineers but 50% of all women in software engineering. Is this bias/ discrimination or not?
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Feels like question is skewed with percentages to drive a point. Lets say an org has 40 engineers. Assuming 10% of those are women, thats 4/40 10% to be laid off, thats 4. Out of that if 2 are men and 2 women, does it sound like discrimination? Even if 1 woman engineer was laid off, it’d be 25% of all female devs and would still feel a higher % even when it is normal when you look at the absolute numbers
The things that there likely some diversity hires among women so it is statistically likely that they perform bit worse on average. And when the company needs to cut costs, diversity cost seems to be a luxury on which the company can save.
Good, this trend needs to end. Once the recession starts companies won’t care about virtue signaling anymore
Could be some form of Simpson’s paradox at play.
103 engineers, 10 laid off. Women were 12 in the org and 6 let go were women. Actually not made up numbers.
Why does their gender matter? Were they performing well or not?
Company stated that none of the layoffs were for performance. Several people cut were up for promotion. No one was on PIP.
From my experience helping to plan layoffs at former employers (one of the worst things I’ve ever done), the axe-wielder is usually a senior exec supported by Accounting. There are pretty much only three ways this goes: 1. Axe by payroll. E.g. each department cuts some %age of payroll costs. Highest paid/most senior people likely to get axed 2. Axe by performance. Stack rank and cut %age 3. Axe by headcount, decision is pushed to HC owning line managers. E.g. exec tells line manager to get rid of 2 people, tells next line manager 3, next 1, down the list. In only option 3 can discrimination even be possible, and it would require proof of intent on the part of a shared line manager. In a 100+ person eng department it’s unlikely all the women even reported to the same person owning HC. In other words, this is definitely not discrimination.
Although surprisingly, they all reported to same SVP.
Did Chewy have layoffs last year?
Is it 10% of all which includes 50% of women from the total 10% ?
See my other reply. ~100 Eng, 12 women, 6 laid off out of 10.
10% is 10 people. 6 women, 4 men is a flip of a coin result, could easily be vice versa or 5 and 5.