Total Yoe: 7, 4 in US + 3 in India (not Witch, it's relevant SDE product work) TC: 350k this year, 320k 2023, 300k 2024 L4 at Google right now, on path to promo. I'd prefer jumping to another company to get the TC boost rather than waiting for 4 years after promo for the L5 refreshers to kick in. How soon should I target interviewing for L5? Any other good wlb companies to target apart from LinkedIn?
Op, you can definitely try. No harm in trying with your yoe. Btw, since how many years are you in Google L4 level? On average, how much time does it take from L4 to L5 at Google?
3 years is the 50%ile tenure at L4 for folks who got a promo. This stat obviously discounts the number of people that leave Google and a few are forever stuck at L4
Why would it take 4 years for your L5 refreshers to start?
No
Interview and see. It's determined in part by interview performance.
They determine by interview performance. Dont go by what levels say at least. I have my Brother in law in linkedin and work responsibilities are significantly higher than google including autonomy. Also they are poaching from Google if money is your concern they can definitely pay you well even as Sr software. Best thing is if you are good 1.5-2 years you will promo to Staff and get another extra grant on promo. Only downside is there is no fixed refresher policy as such. They just set you back to median if u are cliffing and you wont cliff if you promo within 4 years. Linkedin actually has made a mess of its band structures actually it needs an overhual. Fyi they are actually poaching from Google. A friend of mine left. L4 to Software Engineer and still got a 50% hike. He was a poor lowballed hire at L4 so money at least isn’t the problem.
wow, like actually?
Yeah. Dont underestimate googles power to underpay. I have one more of my iit wingmate in Google India who made the move. They were being paid about 55L with 32 base in G. Li offered 70L with 38L as base and rest in stocks. Especially in india post refresher cuts refresher has dwindled down. I mean Google only pays if u negotiate well or did superlatively exceeds in your interview. For the avg joes like most of us if we don’t negotiate hard with 5-6 offers you get stuck with whatever google says u are worth. Same here mostly L4s are making 220-280k about. Li can offer more even at SE level and definitely at sse. The bands overlap a lot there is what i have heard.
Staff leadership expectations are high at LI, helps if you have past experience in cross org leadership and resolving conflicts that always come up
Don't put your job title on your resume. Also don't count your India experience separately
no way scope gap is too big
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Maybe but probably unlikely
Suppose I make it through the interviews based on my YOE, how difficult would it be to survive on the job as an imposter TL?
If you are very strong technically and have good leadership/eq you’ll be fine. If you don’t have both of these skills you are in trouble