If you are a new grad, don’t join AWS Aurora team. The following is my friends’ experiences. But I put it in first-person perspective as following: The golden ages for Aurora has past: Coauthors and most experienced managers for Aurora paper have left Aurora team because of constant intra teams politic fights. New managers either don’t know products well, or are SDE3 trying out managing jobs and suck utterly BADLY at this! Don’t dream of becoming principal engineers here, because PEs here deliver problematic features and all you learn is, don’t touch crappy feature leftovers by principal engineer. Why experienced managers and coauthors left? Because the released multi-master product is such a big failure: 50% of the principal engineers working on this all managers in charge of this have left. They left because other managers that were not in focus before were able to attack them using this big failure. Old guys may be bad, but new guys are even worse: they are business people that care about maintenance and operation most. When engineer make changes in code base, they are required to make minimum changes in fear of breaking the system. Besides, there’s nobody in the team that knows codebase so well that is brave enough to make and verify big changes. Building new service is not a focus in Aurora. Most of the work here are fixing old design issues and broken test tools. Nothing more except globalDB product. Those SDE3 trying out managing work really suck. How they are able to be SDE3 before this? That’s because previous managers are so good at people management and tech, and work is focusing in building rather than maintenance. Why they transit to manager position? Because previous managers are pushed out of here because of failed product, and new leader need to peace the existing team by promoting them as managers to gain their tech help. Trust me, you will be spending 28% of time doing operation! I can’t release this team detail here. Your development routine will be constantly disrupted, and if you suck at operation, you will be PIPed. If you are good at it, well, managers take it for granted and it won’t do any good. Operation performance can only be used to evaluate against you, and it’s taking up 28% of your time! You will get FLOODING waves of sev2. Sev2 occurrence frequency is evaluated in minutes, not day, not week! Oncall and handling tickets are full time jobs, and were sometimes overnight jobs. Mentorship sucks, and coworkers usually sucks. They usually reply your message once every 4 hours. I admit I am biased here. Sum up, they don’t care about you but operations. Join us to be the next premium cloud support! Wanna be principal engineer? Go and solve the customer ticket right now, “it helps you know the system”. You won’t be learning anything except how to do political fight if you are a intermediate cpp programmer like me. One more datapoint: my friend said 5 new hires left team afahk.
Only 28% ops? That's great! Sounds like a good team.
What about sev2 intensity?
They have 10,000 open tickets lol My first hand experience, I once got 28 sev-2s in an hour. There are 10-15 open sev-2s at any point! They have Dublin and Sydney on calls
Probably not for everyone but Some of us thrive in this environment
Consider joining cockroachDB.
Is 🪳 better or worse?
Most of the teams has >35% ops.
Grammar apparently not a strong thing there either
Sure, it’s disappointment
Do you speak about grammar because all the other mentioned facts are true and cannot be contested?
My friend is PIPed.
People on Focus can’t use Blind?
I hope your friend is not taking it personally.
Only 28% for operations? Not bad for amazon
I have first hand experience lol Run from Aurora for your life, that team has 10,000 open tickets! I once got 28 sev-2s in an hour. You guys wouldn't believe how this team operates. Also, I concur with OP that there are no engineers that know the system. The original people who wrote it are no more at Amazon. IMO, Aurora is worst team you can join. Also, OP is so wrong about 28% ops load, my foot 28% ops load. It's 80% freaking ops! The reason your teammates don't reply you back is because even they don't know stuff!
Glad we found each other, mate!
Same experience more like 80% ops work in aurora. Left after a few months...
Amazon is the only company that has so many employment issues. It has attracted the world's most incompetent backstabbing retrded psychopath managers. I truly hope these managers have terminal disease/ chronic mental health issues to a level of paralysis. Evil. Evil of all the people I have seen in the corporate world. They are 100% responsible for ruining the mental health of their reports.
>Don't join Amazon There, I fixed this for you.