Work VisaDec 23, 2020
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EB2: China vs India

Recently, an Indian colleague (and friend) of mine had his immigrant petition filed under EB2 category. He was complaining about how time-taking it is for Indians and Chinese to get their green cards owing to the huge queues, a complaint similar to the one I had heard from my Manager (Indian as well). I looked up the dates for each country, and it seems they are nowhere close to each other, China's date seems to be mid 2016 while India's date is mid 2009. Why do Indians (both on blind and IRL) club the two countries - India and China - when they talk about EB2 dates? As an outsider it would appear that the situation for China is much better. I saw this same trend on Blind, a simple search on the topic will show you what I mean. Why add China to the list when you complain my Indian bros? (fyi: European on L visa, no plans to immigrate) #workvisa #h1b #eb2 #greencard

Amazon apollo35 Dec 23, 2020

Because their situation is actually caused by Indian consulting companies manipulating H1B visa system year after year since 1990s. So if they just complain about themselves, it sounds like criminals complaining the law being too tight. Chinese is the largest international student group in American universities. The backlog for Chinese is mostly related to problem of the green card system itself.

Adobe _adbe Dec 23, 2020

Ask congress why they had to bump up h1b numbers during Y2K time ? Next time ask US companies to diversify their offshore offices in all other countries to distribute backlog.

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uic OP Dec 23, 2020

@Amazon: I don't quite follow the last part, how is the backlog for Chinese a problem of the green card system? Is it because they send more students to the US? That doesn't make sense.

Adobe _adbe Dec 23, 2020

Ppl who applied in 2016 are getting now ... and it’s moving at slow pace it doesn’t mean who ever applied today gets it in 4 years ... similarly for India.

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uic OP Dec 23, 2020

@Adobe: Yes, I can see how that would happen but regardless the situation seems far too grim for Indians when compared to the Chinese. What I'm pointing out is the tendency of Indians to club the 2 countries. I work for a firm where 80% folks are either Indians or Chinese, and I love them just like I love others. I am curious as to why Indians feel the need to club with the Chinese, when the other side doesn't do so? Is it some form of one-sided bromance that I'm unaware of?

Google jkLy05 Dec 23, 2020

Lol chinese EB3 queue is actually faster in some cases. Some EB2s were dropping into EB3s because of that. It's a very different cohort of people. I don't think I've seen any going through consulting companies. Most of the H1Bs were oversea students who studied in the US. That number is topping off in recent years. Studying in the US isn't as desirable as it was seen a few years before. That's probably why the queue isn't bad. Most Chinese people I know haven't complained about the queue length. 5ish years in total isn't too bad.

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uic OP Dec 23, 2020

You could make your point in a civilized way, and avoid histrionics. Clearly your education has failed you.

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RYOT koXR37 Dec 24, 2020

Because they club desis into the Asian category

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uic OP Dec 24, 2020

I have never once seen someone from China do that- IRL or on Blind.

RYOT koXR37 Dec 24, 2020

Oh they did that in our office

NVIDIA dddd_vvvv Jan 5, 2021

I think China and India are the only two country having to wait for years for GC constantly. We share the pain bro
 I believe if Congress can amend the law by adding legal review for all H1B->GC case, making sure no GC issued to those who cheated(filing multiple petition in the lottery or fake job through ICC), then folks will get GC way faster. The current mechanism works as, if any fake doc is provided in GC and citizenship process, the citizenship or GC can be revoked afterwards. That doesn’t help with clearing backlog now


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uic OP Jan 5, 2021

>We share the pain bro
 Let me guess: you're Indian?

Microsoft CoinBit Feb 21, 2021

2009 for India should be read as 1800. So about 200 years delay. Indians applying today will get in 200 years from now assuming the same pace.