EM years of experience
How many years of experience makes you a solid EM who is in demand and considered pro? I feel like my leverage as an employee has gone lower when I became a manager. As an engineer, I’d get a lot of emails about new and exciting roles. Nowadays, it feels like companies need at least three years and even then you’re considered junior. What has been other folks experience like? Yoe:7 Yoe as EM:3 Tc:900k
tc 900k at 7 yoe !!! wow, congratulations
i am not even qualified to reply on this question 🙈
Eh Airbnb stock appreciation is likely to thank for that
4-5 years
Im in a similar boat as you are - 7 YOE of those 4 as an EM. It depends on which company you target for. Most will interview you regardless of your YOE but your YOE will definitely come to play during HC review. Uber, Lyft, Airbnb, Snap, Stripe etc are typically more open minded than Google and FB. 3~4 yrs as an EM should be a good place to start but it was still tough to make that lateral move. I say 10 YOE with 4 as an EM is when the HC starts to feel more comfortable about hiring you. FYI, I’m no longer with Amzn.
This is super helpful - yeah basically feels like every time I interview, somebody or the other has some random concern which correlates to YOE. And they usually don’t have any feedback on interviews (“your interviews went well, we are looking for somebody more senior”). I am so annoyed right now. For folks looking to transition to management, this is one con that for at least the first few years, you’d be considered a n00b and swimming upstream.
One important lesson I learned was being transparent about learnings. This gives the HC more confident that while short, you’ve been through enough situations and have learned from them. The HC are typically looking for those EMs that have faced various challenges and have matured in the process. So during your interview, rather than focusing on what you did, explain the painful process and what you learned and how you iterated. Finally, there is no definite answers to management so feel free to express your philosophy and how that got built.
It's not about leverage I think, just supply and demand.