I think managers purposely chose the managerial path because they didn't like to code or found it harder to do with age. The way I look at coding is equivalent to cleaning your house. It's a lot of grunt work, with a fair bit of motivation required, and most importantly you are required to have faster legs. As a technical engineering manager, I have cleaned the room once so I know how to clean the room. But I think it's beneath my social status to clean it. Hence I hire people inferior than me (either due to age or race or lack of social capital) to do the cleaning job. I know what places need to be cleaned. I also know what needs to be cleaned. I can verify the output of the cleaning exercises my reports have done. I can also verify the quality of the cleaning work. I can also find the slacker who cleans the slowest. But I won't do it myself. I will hire people to do it. So in other words some Godfather above me has enabled me to get into a white collar job and empowered and enabled me to get workers to do the cleaning work. That's why a lot of people leave software engineering and become product managers or engineering managers. The vulnerable with no social capital end up being relegated to the blue collar coding work.
Yeah pretty much sums it up
Programming with a gun to your head is not fun
pretty sure you need someone to verify the quality of the cleaning work because you dont want to shoulder the chance of someone finding dust where you dont want it.
Written by chatGPT? The previous version of this troll’s post was better.
Especially the Indian EMs. They are useless. Telling it as an Indian. These souls exist on paper and they do nothing worth the penny. Teams run and exist even without EMs.
Not any different from my white American managers. It's a known fact that anyone who actively chooses to avoid writing code is doing it because he knows there are other bodies he can hire to do the dirty work.
Why this hatred, just move to manager if you think you can handle swe’s n coding or grow to senior Ics who don’t code and want to write strategy doc and do a PM work but get paid 2X times.
Fair enough, but I did it because I was good at understanding tech and business, so I wanted to empower amazing technical people to build the right components for a business problem, while growing them
No you just found a way to maintain high TC without having to code.
lol @Meta , no you don’t. This is the biggest BS I keep hearing from manager you are there only for the money and that they don’t have to code.
Agreed. Who doesn't love a $700k paycheck to attend meetings from 9 to 5? The funny thing is when they try to gaslight us into thinking they still love learning about technology and coding. "I wish I was still coding and upskilling myself" no you don't. Stop the 🧢
Cool story bro, now go back to work.
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Lol deeply...good one.