Evil MSFT made a round of lay offs and paid severance of 2 weeks for each year of service. Why can't Uber take a similar route but PIPing people instead? I understand they don't want to pay severance but most of us on h1bs and we need grace time to find a new job and transfer our visa. We served Uber for year(s) of hard work and it's not our fault if the company hired too many engineers lately. Throwing h1bs under bus is not fair.
this question makes no sense. Laying off people rather than giving them a pip so they can find another job is worse ? I think you have forgotten this small thing called logic
It's practically not possible to do interviews and meet your weekly checkpoints.
Assume that u have been laid off and give zero shit about weekly checkpoints or about uber itself lol
Since Jan 17, H1Bs have 60 days grace period if employment is terminated.
link please? Is this effective as of today? What happens to the people terminated before Jan 17? I know one person.
This is effective as of today. https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-final-rule-certain-employment-based-immigrant-and-nonimmigrant-visa-programs However I am not a lawyer, please consult a professional.
Isn't h1b supposed to temporarily help the US when US can't find a citizen to do the job? When the h1b holder can't find a job it means that US no longer needs this holder and it can just gracefully go home.
There are jobs around. We need to mind deadlines to transfer visas. Terminating someone invalidates his visa immediately and has to go back to India for visa revalidation.
The "it" you are referring to has a career too and is not just here to serve the US but to improve his/her career. So please !
Would be good if they did it the IBM way. If you're an engineer they give you 3 months to look for a job. After that you're kicked out of IBM and are given 1 month severance. During the 3 months you're not expected to work. Your job at that point is to find another job. This gives you the benefit of not needing to tell anyone you're laid off.
this is how MSFT did it in 2014. 2 months of being officially employed (without access to buildings & network) plus some severance.
I am totally OK with that. I wish Uber does the same.
Microsoft people! Come over to uber! We love Politicians !
Uber has politicians , Microsoft is a lot better now
First for all, you need to understand what an H1B Visa is. I wouldn't expect to have guaranteed stability if I were of that status. Just goes with the territory. No different than working as a contractor.
Haha business isn't "fair" no
The entitlement that I see H1B workers have is a bit ridiculous from what I have witnessed first hand.
A layoff is not a firing. BTW, is it possible to climb out of a PIP?
Not in uber - if you are in PIP you will mostly be out - nobody cares about performance, it's just reducing headcount at the pretext of performance
I was told by a VP at my company that once someone is on a PIP they would be foolish to not start looking immediately because they have basically started laying the legal groundwork to fire you. It's basically just part of the HR process to do so and have some documentation in case you try to sue. However, I would like to think that in some companies, if you were humble enough and perhaps took a lot of initiative in expressing how much you want to stay and willingness to do whatever it takes to make it work that you might be able to save yourself. But you might have to fully admit your flaws and acknowledge them and be very up front with them on your true desire to do a complete 180 in their eyes. But cover your bases and at least have your resume updated and start networking.
Uber wants to avoid paying money - uber does layoffs , but media doesn't get to know about it - that is super PR :)
isn't pip a grace way to find a new job and transfer your visa?
There is grace period but it doesn't look good on the record.
You are given a PIP project that is outside your expertise area and there are weekly checkpoints, if you miss one, you are out. It's hard to do PiP and job search together. (I've seen backend engineers asked to do UI work, SREs asked to do AI chat bot)