I have 15+ years of experience but I've never been part of a FAANG style company, I've been happy with my employment at my current company for 10+ years. That said, I have a coding interview with Microsoft next week, and in the emails with the recruiter they asked my compensation goals. I didn't give an actual answer, mentioned how team/work-life-balance/growth are important/etc. From the job posting on careers.microsoft.com: "Software Engineering IC4 - The typical base pay range for this role across the U.S. is USD $112,000 - $218,400 per year. There is a different range applicable to specific work locations, within the San Francisco Bay area and New York City metropolitan area, and the base pay range for this role in those locations is USD $145,800 - $238,600 per year." I live in Arizona, so considered LCOL I believe. How much of this negotiation is up to the recruiter? Is 218k somewhat easily secured or does that value require approval from a hiring committee? What can I reasonably expect for all portions of the compensation (base/bonus/RSUs) I've checked levels.fyi, so I have an idea, but still curious on what I don't know and help from someone inside Microsoft might enlighten me. TC: 145k #engineering #software #swe #microsoft #faang
For FAANG, 15 YOE engineer is around 300k-700k. One could, in exceptional cases, get hired at below-senior levels, but that would still be around 200k-300k. Though frankly, 200k in a cheaper area goes way farther than 400k in places like Seattle.
I don't expect to get that much TBH, all the companies I've worked for are pretty nameless. I'll definitely re-evaluate after a year or so at a larger company. I'm still a bit clueless on how much control the recruiter has vs needing approval from a hiring committee for the negotiation.
They don’t go to hiring committee typically. Usually to finance/comp team.
I am not sure if YoE matters that much in fang. It's more on the role you are getting hired for.
I say don’t worry about comp at this point, focus on cracking the interview. That’s the main goal. Give any random range now like 250-300 you can always change that later if team likes you and want to hire you.
Yeah, I'm focusing on LC for a week before my test. I've been practicing for a few months now anyway, I'm at about ~350 questions completed...but I can grind for a week hard for 8hrs+ a day. Then worry about system design and behavioural after I get through the coding portion.
YoE isn't a great indicator of level. Level is what determines your TC. Check levels.fyi if you are interested in the bands. Microsoft is a lower paying company vs the rest, so you will not get as big numbers as you can from Meta or Uber. Anyone who passes the interview will be offered a standard package for the level. This is usually 10 to 15% below top of the band. With other offers in hand, it's usually not too difficult to get to top of the band through negotiations.
At 3yoe I’m making 300k at non fang. With 15 yoe I expect 300k * 15/3=1500k tc target
Wait, where is this?
So true. Salaries are the result of linearity 🤣🤣🤣
With 15 yoe, you can ask for 200k+ easily. I'm at 3 yoe with 160k but in hcol
200k base? Or TC? I'm trying to get to 180-200k base, then have bonus/stock push me up toward maybe 240k.
You are low balling yourself, what level are you interviewing for?