No, FAANMG does not explicitly pay less to those on visas. That’s not what’s happening. Read on... We already know that large big-name tech companies have gone to many lengths, including illegal collusion by restricting recruiting, to prevent their employees from switching jobs. This is wage theft. What they’re doing now, to reduce EVERYONE’s wages, is using the restrictive nature of the H-1B to discourage ~25% of their tech employees[1] from switching jobs. This distorts the market for EVERYONE, not just for those on visas. Consider a hypothetical 4-person team. Situation A: Anyone on this team might leave, better give everyone a decent raise (provided their perf was fine) because I don’t want to have to find multiple people this year. Situation B: Sid and Li definitely won’t leave because they’re on H-1B lmao. Only the 2 others might. In all likelihood, at most one person would leave. Eh, fuck it, I’ll just give a bare minimum 3% raise. I can also delay Li’s promotion, because it’s not like he’ll leave. This is also wage theft, and is equally bad. The problem at FAANMG is not as simple as demand/supply. As we know, most FAANMG companies have significant engineering teams in UK/India/China/Israel with expansion plans. Eliminating H-1B entirely would just make them hire people there instead of bringing them here. (Yes it would prevent Disney-type scenarios but FAANG does not engage in that). Rather, the solution is giving everyone equal rights to freely quit their job and join another company or start their own. They should not be beholden to their employer in any way. HR392 will enable this. If you work at a FAANMG, support HR392 and you’ll see your wages increase over the next few years regardless of your immigration status. It is not a perfect bill, but it is the only politically feasible bill. Done is better than perfect.
What’s N ?
I used all the initials to keep the trolls at bay, looks like it didn’t work too well. N is Netflix lol.
I just don’t think it applies to Netflix.
Netflix will apply GC for you on day 1 and nobody asks this question again.
They also paid my premium processing, gave me yearly >10 % comp adjustments while on h-1b
Apple also does GC’s and premium processing. So do crappy outsourcing firms like Cognizant. Until you actually get the GC, it’s irrelevant.
I feel my promotion was delayed by a year, coz my manager was confident that I would not leave due to my Visa issues.
‘Murica!!!
Bro.. people need to stop getting 6 figures for writing for loops anyways
Totally different issue but I'm with you on that
Outsource the loop writing!
Wut if we don't work at faamng does it still affect us
If your company hires people on visas at all, it will help all employees of your company. I believe KPMG does hire people on H-1B’s.
That's the first question we have to ask candidates. Ask them if they need sponsorship now or in the future
You can switch jobs while on H1B, even if your GC is in progress. I've done it more than once. No biggie. Look up AC21. Your argument doesn't hold water.
Yes, you can. No, people don’t actually do it much, because it can be a pain. Also, you need another job totally lined up. You cannot just quit, take time off, then join another company. And you cannot start your own. I never claimed it was impossible. I used the word “restrictive”.
Meh, after moving from a different country and usually a different continent, those are minor restrictions that you'll be easily able to cope with. Again, done it multiple times, know people that did it multiple times, totally no pain at all. In all fairness, I would recommend you improve your negotiating skills. It'll help you.
There are several restrictions, especially in the common case of being on H-1B and also waiting for a GC. - You have very limited time in between jobs. Everything has to be perfectly lined up for you to switch jobs. - You cannot quit your job when things go south, planning to take some time off then find another job. - If your employer fires you, you’re in deep trouble. All of this leads to people not changing jobs (or starting their own company) as much as they otherwise would. This leads to wage theft.
These are good points. I should clarify that I think L1 is much more problematic, but gets only a fraction of attention that H1-B does.
If being on a work visa didn't affect your risk appetite (switch jobs), I admire you! You should also know that you're the exception, not the norm. For the majority of people on work visas, especially those with families, switching jobs is an added risk (however small). +Risk -> -Action Even assuming that all companies compensate their employees fairly every year, this negative stimulus for potential job switchers does have a corresponding negative impact on the overall wages.
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> Apple > "Done is better than perfect" How things have changed. Tim Cook is going to bury that company.
We’re talking about the political system here, not an Apple product. Certainly this tax reform is not perfect, but it is done and now Apple’s cash is drastically more free than it was before.
HR392 is a non starter. It will lead to backlog again. RAISE is what we need.