Tech IndustrySep 26, 2020
GoogleBOGw02

FB vs Pinterest

Got offer from FB and pinterest. Struggling to make a decision. Both are machine learning engineer roles. I care my career growth the most and also if possible hope work life balance not too bad. please feel free to share your thoughts. ☺️ Fb E5 205k base 700k equity over 4 years 15% yearly bonus, 100k sign on bonus Pinterest L5 210k base 910k equity over 4 years no yearly bonus, 100k sign on bonus YOE 7 TC 360k L5 #offer

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Grab gp22 Sep 26, 2020

@OP you mentioned TC as 36 ? Is this correct ?

Google BOGw02 OP Sep 26, 2020

Sorry 360k

Pinterest 📌sexual Sep 26, 2020

Do Pinterest. Bigger stock upside by far and we could always use talented ML people. Congrats on the two offers. You must be a strong candidate 💪

Microsoft yuk46 Sep 26, 2020

Congrats, what is your level at G?

Google BOGw02 OP Sep 26, 2020

Thanks 😊 L5

Airbnb bj58wj Sep 26, 2020

What is refresher situation at Pinterest. I think that's the only other factor to consider, otherwise the offer looks solid

Google BOGw02 OP Sep 26, 2020

Pinterest refresh is 175k (from recruiter ) vs fb refresh 140k (from blind)

Pinterest 📌sexual Sep 26, 2020

Pinterest recruiter told me that refreshers can be anywhere from 150k to 350k for the very top performers at L5

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Gartner dumbsquid Sep 26, 2020

@op do you know what is the difference between ML system design vs ML Practioner onsite rounds at Pinterest?

Google BOGw02 OP Sep 26, 2020

My feeling is ml system design is more focused on "system" while the other totally depends on the interviewer. They ask detail ml questions to test if you really have hands on experience 🙂. But don't worry too much. They don't expect you correctly answer all questions. My interviewer asked lots of questions, I probably correctly answer 80%. Screwed some questions up. Some I can't recall details and I have to say I don't remember.

Snapchat $napchat Sep 26, 2020

Pinterest offer is pretty good. Also I think it has more growth potential than FB

Salesforce helpMeGod Sep 26, 2020

Pinterest is a gamble, but still better in terms of growth and learning. If you want to play it safe, go to fb.

Pinterest njgiwue Sep 28, 2020

Fb if you want learning and career growth. Also, we hire anyone with 3-4yoe as L5. Given you are L5 at G, you should have been offered L6. We offer L6 to any L5 from fb or g. Also checkout our recent hires. They are from tier3 companies and we have offered them L6 despite 5-6yoe.

Facebook morelike Sep 28, 2020

Where do we check recent hires?

Pinterest youhub Sep 28, 2020

Pinterest is a pretty boring and also evil company in terms of culture. People are in denial about discrimination and almost killing employees. FB would be better.

Google zbdbdck Sep 28, 2020

Can you elaborate on whats wrong with the culture. Is this related to the recent incident?

Pinterest njgiwue Sep 28, 2020

I am not sure about evil but for sure it is boring as f**k. I am not sure how our stock price is that high.

Pinterest dang28 Sep 28, 2020

Great time to join pinterest as an ML engineer. Fb is too big. The business is solidly set up to have great stock upside in the next few years. The work would be more challenging though than FB. So pick accordingly