Facebook IC5/IC6 offer

Sep 26, 2019 19 Comments

I got offer from Facebook (Oculus) for product design role based in Redmond. Currently working at Apple and have 8 years of work experience with PhD. I have been offered IC5 level, trying to negotiate to get IC6. Do I qualify for IC6? What to expect for compensation at IC5 and IC6?

edit: My interview went really well and the manager really liked me. I feel he really wants me to join his team but i dont have any competing offers (didn’t really try). How much room for negotiation do i have?

update: They offered me L6 with below package. HR mentioned they have room for negotiation and asked what i want. The initial offer does look low compared to what I have seen on levels.fyi but i do have less year of experience. I am going to give counter offer on Monday. Any suggestions on how much can I push?

Base: $205k
RSU: $400k
20% cash bonus + refresher equity
no sign on bonus

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  • eBay nKnsgD
    check levels.fyi
    Sep 26, 2019 0
  • Seagate toti420
    Do you mind sharing your current TC? Mine is 180/25/30 base/bonus/rsu per year. PhD + 15 YOE. I’ve considered both Apple and FB Oculus. I want to know how underpaid I’m.
    Sep 26, 2019 0
  • Facebook / Design BDUFFFFFFF
    For PD in MPK my IC6 offer was 210k base / 20% bonus / 500k rsu - I think the range for ic5 might be like 160-180 base / 15% / maybe 350k rsu? I might be optimistic on the rsu part.
    Sep 27, 2019 3
    • Facebook / Design BDUFFFFFFF
      14yoe
      Sep 30, 2019
    • Was told max rsu for PD ic5 was 300k fyi
      Oct 13, 2019
  • Facebook gEKd54
    You cant really negotiate a level (and being leveled too high in fb is a really terrible experience).

    The expectations from different levels are dramatically different and if you were offered IC5 (which is a pretty senior level for a designer, good job!) It is because your interview performance made them confident you can meet that bar.

    You can try to negotiate better comp
    Sep 27, 2019 2
    • Facebook / Design BDUFFFFFFF
      Yea this. I would try to negotiate rsu’s as base has a band and bonus is fixed by level. Maybe a signing bonus tho these aren’t substantial for designers who are industry hires as far as I know.

      Being over leveled is gonna be a really rough experience and if you can beat expectations at the lower level you’ll do better than being slightly average at the higher one in my experience
      Sep 27, 2019
    • Apple geek420
      Thanks for feedback. I do realize expectations will be higher at L6 and there is a risk. However, they will not consider me for L6 if they believed I cannot deliver.
      Sep 27, 2019
  • Facebook tiramisu2
    Levels are fixed by your interview performance. Did you check with the recruiter before your interviewed?
    Sep 27, 2019 1
    • Apple atlrunner
      OP
      I was told level will be decided based on my interview performance, same as what you said.
      Sep 27, 2019
  • Seagate toti420
    Post the offer
    Sep 26, 2019 0
  • Apple atlrunner
    OP
    Don’t have the details of offer yet. They asked me to provide my expected range which I declined to do. I am told they will get back to me after reviewing offer with compensation team.
    Sep 26, 2019 2
    • Seagate toti420
      Congrats on the offer. What kinds of questions were you asked?
      Sep 27, 2019
    • Apple geek420
      Mostly technical questions, looking for deep knowledge and expertise in the area and able to drive cross functional efforts. Also had 30 mins presentation to showcase the work I have been doing. Presentation is the key as that sets the tone for rest of the day.
      Sep 28, 2019
  • Google wazzzzup
    What’s your level at Apple? Normally FB won’t up level you from my experience with Product Design roles. Either you have competing offers with higher levels at the likes of G, N, etc
    Sep 27, 2019 1
    • Apple atlrunner
      OP
      I am IC4 at Apple. Based on my research it is equivalent to IC5 at Facebook
      Sep 27, 2019
  • Apple / Project
    goodtalent

    Apple Project

    PRE
    Apple
    BIO
    Technical program manager in digital e-commerce and content
    goodtalentmore
    Thanks any ideas on max base and RSU range for tech program management roles In marketplace & commerce teams for IC5 and for IC6?
    Jan 5 0
  • Facebook / Eng
    foggydesi

    Facebook Eng

    BIO
    previously worked at startups and eng leadership at fortune 50 companies, Google & now at FB
    foggydesimore
    You have the YOE, the degree and seems like your interview went really well .... Push for ic6 ...
    Sep 27, 2019 0

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