Joining at Google at L4. Feeling downleveled. Which org has the fastest promotion cycle? Personally have heard Ads is the best but you have to work for it (which I'm fine with). #Google
Nowadays it’s trivial to go to 5. Many swes are promoted to 5 with project being cancelled. What was your job level at Apple?
Sounds like fake news. Can you please elaborate? Do you mean *eventually* (i.e., in 2+ years)?
No L5 promo did not require project finishing
I'm also curious to see if there's any team at Google with fast promos. Most of the people I know at Google complained how slow and bureaucratic their process is. It's virtually no way you can get promoted in your first year.
I think msft is same or even worse, our level is less than half
It's true that we have 2 levels per band, but I don't agree that it's bad or bureaucratic: it helps you see your progress. If anything, I'd prefer to be promoted every half year or a year than wait at least 2 years before any promotion.
Try to find a team that has an urgent need for a combination of skills that only you have.
I am sure many people have the same question
I am an ICT4 at Apple focused on Machine Learning (modeling and deployment to iOS). I was hoping to get an L5 offer but got L4 instead. I figured Ads might use ML more but I don't have a PhD and can imagine getting crushed compared to all of the L4 PhD hires from MIT
Hmmm yeah many PhD folks are there at Google. But if you perform well, you can still get promoted right ?
have you joined g? Seems L4 is a good hire for you.
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From what I last know, the fastest is to go to a bad team and be the best there. Because there is a quota for promo for each team. If you are in a good team and not the top few performers, you won’t get promoted.
Quota is at broader VP level not at team level.