Tech IndustryApr 11, 2022
Amazonamzn1794

Focus to Pip?

I'm in the last 2 weeks of my focus plan. My otherwise micro managerial and borderline abusive manager has stopped checking in on me and does not respond to my messages for a long time. Feedbacks haven't been great so far. Does that mean a PIP is on its way ? Tc: 185 k Yoe: 10 months as PM #amazonpip #amazon

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brokein2PM Apr 11, 2022

Yes

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smugglers Apr 11, 2022

Yes

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Amazon amzn1794 OP Apr 11, 2022

Are you an ex amazonian?

Amazon amzn1794 OP Apr 11, 2022

Thank you for the context, that's helpful

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eskG52 Apr 11, 2022

Yes

Amazon amzn1794 OP Apr 11, 2022

Ex amazonian?

Crunchyroll heki Apr 11, 2022

Curious how things work for PMs in Amazon, what got you into the focus Plan?

Amazon amzn1794 OP Apr 11, 2022

Tried changing teams to get away from a micro manager, manager put me on focus

Crunchyroll heki Apr 11, 2022

Ouch! Sorry to hear that

Shippo nymphadora Apr 11, 2022

Dude, you're getting into PIP in 2 + 1 weeks. If you want time to find a new job, then take FMLA of 12 weeks. You'll also get paid 60% of base and your stocks (5%) will vest. Then take the severance and GTFO of Amazon

Amazon amzn1794 OP Apr 11, 2022

It should be short term disability since I'm less than 1 year at amazon. Any idea how to get that?

Shippo nymphadora Apr 11, 2022

oh crap, right, FMLA not applicable. Check with DLS about your options. Talk to your manager about taking all your PTOs and leaves before PIP starts so that you can cool off before PIP. Then it's your choice whether to take PIP or take severance. You can take PIP and do the bare minimum to just not get fired. Keep job hunting in the meanwhile. This way you get to stretch your tenure. If by any means you can stretch it to a year, then take FMLA

Amazon amzn1794 OP Apr 11, 2022

Honestly I want my focus to get extended since my h1b was picked this year. Hence the question :)

Amazon nSHv26 Apr 11, 2022

How do you know you're in focus and when the end date is? Sounds like you don't like the manager but there must be some level of trust between you if they gave you this info. Mgr can extend focus, but if they've stopped providing feedback its likely they've already aligned with skip and hr on pivot. Best of luck.

Amazon amzn1794 OP Apr 11, 2022

The manager informed me and shared the focus plan and timelines. That is just an org level practice

Amazon nSHv26 Apr 11, 2022

Interesting. Never heard of that. Who is your org's s-team leader?

Expedia Group IndianBorn Sep 6, 2022

Bruh you should’ve already been interviewing and have offers if you haven’t already