Hey folks. I have received an offer for SDE4. I’m based in Portugal and I couldn’t negotiate a base salary over $80k. There’s a bonus of 8% and $130k in RSUs over 4 years. I have another offer from a super early fintech startup (3 software engineers + CTO) $118k base salary plus paper money. My current total compensation is $82k plus some paper money at a local startup, so both offers are good for me. Both offers are full remote. Do you think PagerDuty is a nice company to work and have on the resume? I really enjoyed the people that interviewed me but I also know that a lot of great engineers left in the past years. I also have a few doubts around the stock based compensation. I can’t see the stock going anywhere… and there’s some competition popping out. I’m not sure if should discard the possibility of being paid $118k in cash by the other company. I would appreciate some advice 🙏 #engineering #swe #offer #remote
Unless there's a strong reason to choose pagerduty (or to not choose the startup) at least from the numbers the startup seems like a clear winner, even if paper money goes to ashes base alone beats pagerduty
I would say the positive strong reasons are the level that was proposed to me and having a big company in my resume. But I’m also afraid of their stock, there’s a high risk of being underpaid for a while.
Factors in no particular order 1. Brand recognition 2. WLB 3. Real money 4. Kind of work 5. Domain 7. Frequency and severity of oncall
If the stealth company raised recently post free money era they probably have a good leadership team and have traction.
Yes, raised $3M in their pre-seed last month. From the conversations I had, the leadership seems to be top notch. The goal is to build and have a quick exit.
Fwiw having leadership talking about an exit is a red flag. Leadership should be focused on finding pmf, building a great product and not focused on that. Exiting too early means there's a huge chance they get a ton of money and you're left with pennies and without a job.
My god, the market is that bad?
Eu salaries are very very different. This is actually really decent bases in portugal
I didn’t read EU, my bad, the USD threw me off
YOE? What are you looking for in your next role? Established company with more mentorship and help, or doing everything yourself and being self-starting about absolutely everything? Both pay the same.
Around 9. Well, I’ve been working at a startup for almost 4 years. I’ve done a lot of things by myself. I think I’m ready for taking an official “leading” role at a bigger company, that’s why my interest in the PD offer.
Which is why I think PD would be better. Blinders only see numbers when they vote.
does it involve midnight pages?
At PD yes, and they pay €400 for it.
What team are you joining at PD?
Ingestion team in the AIOps product.
That's a core team, it's a good learning opportunity
How comfortable can one be with these salaries in EU? Planning to move there from India
In Portugal you can be very comfortable.
I was interviewing for PagerDuty, unfortunately, at least in the US, they only allow you to work outside of your home state for like 25 days a year, and I like traveling a lot so it didn’t work out ☹️
Just don’t tell anyone…
I mean you could do it without telling them. I think it’s be a bigger issue if you were working outside the country
How hard it would be to get promoted from SDE4 to SDE5 (Staff)?
Very. Here it's called staff but it doesn't align with staff roles in other companies.
That’s what I thought. But do you think SDE4 gets a lot of responsibility? At least that’s what they told me.